Matt Rhule Podcast with Peter King

[Samppson]

Hey,

 

I didn't see this posted, but if I missed it, feel free to delete the topic. It's a nice 26 minute interview/conversation that Peter King does with Matt Rhule.

 

[mrcompletely11]

Is it worth listening to or is it just a bunch of coachspeak?

[Samppson]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Is it worth listening to or is it just a bunch of coachspeak?

I thought it was good, its less of an interview, more of a conversation, some pretty good stories as well.

[raz]

i enjoyed it a lot.  i like that guy.

[panthers55]

Every time I hear Rhule speak,  I see more clearly why he was a great choice and what Hurney and Tepper saw in him.

[top dawg]

After listening to him, I wonder if Cam just wasn't the right fit for this system. I'm leaning that he was not (mainly due to his accuracy, and possibly decision making). 

[CPsinceDay1]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

After listening ro him, I wonder if Cam just wasn't the right fit for this system. I'm leaning that he was not (mainly due to his accuracy, and possibly decision making). 

I believe Cam thought he was bigger than the team, he is a look at me type player, not saying I dislike Cam, but let's face it Cam was more about himself than being a team. CMC started getting more attention, and Cam views himself the franchise. Also do you remember #1 jersey used to be for the fans. This TEAM doesn't need Superman to save them.

 

Teddy focus is football 

If Cam would've took the time he gave to he's fashion sense to study more, there's no telling how great he could've been. 

 

Not bashing Cam, still the greatest QB in Panthers history, but c'mon he plays for the Patriots. I rather have seen him in a Falcons jersey.

[Mage]

4 minutes ago, CPsinceDay1 said:

I believe Cam thought he was bigger than the team, he is a look at me type player, not saying I dislike Cam, but let's face it Cam was more about himself than being a team. CMC started getting more attention, and Cam views himself the franchise. Also do you remember #1 jersey used to be for the fans. This TEAM doesn't need Superman to save them.

This is the furthest thing from the truth.  Cam put winning over everything else since Day 1.

[Ricky Spanish]

36 minutes ago, top dawg said:

After listening ro him, I wonder if Cam just wasn't the right fit for this system. I'm leaning that he was not (mainly due to his accuracy, and possibly decision making). 

His decisions making was always really good. Cam could read a defense really well. His accuracy was streaky though. Not even bad, just high highs and low lows. 

[top dawg]

Just now, Ricky Spanish said:

His decisions making was always really good. Cam could read a defense really well. His accuracy was streaky though. Not even bad, just high highs and low lows. 

There were plenty of times when Cam should've thrown the ball out, or checked it down and took what the defense was giving him, but didn't. In that same vein, sometimes extending the play is great, but you must learn to get down before getting hit! He allowed his body to take way more damage than necessary, and I would've liked to have seen him make particularly better decisions in that regard. He made good decisions at times, but he didn't "always" make good decisions. He was inconsistent in his decision making, and sometimes that got him into trouble.

[Prowler2k18]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

There were plenty of times when Cam should've thrown the ball out, or checked it down and took what the defense was giving him, but didn't. In that same vein, sometimes extending the play is great, but you must learn to get down before getting hit! He allowed his body to take way more damage than necessary, and I would've liked to have seen him make particularly better decisions in that regard. He made good decisions at times, but he didn't "always" make good decisions. He was inconsistent in his decision making, and sometimes that got him into trouble.

You make some good points but I place blame for this on the coaching. It seems we never really invested in a quality QB coach under the previous regime as we should have - one that would teach Cam the nuances of the position that would’ve helped improve his accuracy, mechanics and decision making. Unfortunately, it’s harder to unlearn bad habits than it is to develop good ones early in one’s career and I’m sure this factored into the decision to part with Cam. JMO

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

After listening ro him, I wonder if Cam just wasn't the right fit for this system. I'm leaning that he was not (mainly due to his accuracy, and possibly decision making). 

I said this at the time when we hadn't decided on Cam and before we brought in Bridgewater.  Cam has never been good anticipating receivers and he struggles throwing guys open and throwing to a spot. His accuracy was very hit or miss and he wouldn't do well in a New Orleans style offense.  It doesn't mean Cam isn't a great quarterback simply that you have to put the system that matches his style versus install any system and expect him to adapt to it out of the gate.

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

His decisions making was always really good. Cam could read a defense really well. His accuracy was streaky though. Not even bad, just high highs and low lows. 

Actually his decision-making and reading defenses were areas he did improve tremendously but they have always been weak areas. 

[panthers55]

10 minutes ago, Prowler2k18 said:

You make some good points but I place blame for this on the coaching. It seems we never really invested in a quality QB coach under the previous regime as we should have - one that would teach Cam the nuances of the position that would’ve helped improve his accuracy, mechanics and decision making. Unfortunately, it’s harder to unlearn bad habits than it is to develop good ones early in one’s career and I’m sure this factored into the decision to part with Cam. JMO

Problem is I think Cam wasn't interested in.learning the nuances of the game. He has always over relied on his physical abilities to get him through. Which worked until he got injured