How many more games until the NFL season is delayed/cancelled due to Coronavirus? *CATCH ALL NFL/COVID THREAD*

[4Corners]

There’s another surge coming 

[Basbear]

No idea, but if big names hit the list.... That could force the nfl to make a move. I feel the players and teams got lazy about the protocols(titans did for sure). The after game hug-fest was not NFL approved and everyone was doing it. 

[top dawg]

57 minutes ago, Eric4280 said:

100 percent this. Too often I talk with people thatre too afraid to live the normal life again, yet, say they’d never get the vaccine. Do people WANT to play this never ending game of hide and go seek with a virus? I don’t get it. If you fear for it, take your precautions, but don’t let it dictate society going forward. we need to start changing the knowledge people are given and focus on the positive. It’s like people WANT this new way of scared life. Obviously, take your precautions and do your part to stay safe. But to accept that you’re gonna have things shut down forever? It’s nonsense.

"...have things shut down forever..." is hyperbolic nonsense!

[ncstatekwi]

COVID-19 Pandemic ends after November 3rd, 2020!! 

[SaltnPepper]

15 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

There’s another surge coming 

Probably but we shouldn't shutdown again.

At this point all we can do is try to step up personal hygiene and don't do anything excessively stupid.

Again 99.8% of people will be fine.

[Peon Awesome]

4 hours ago, SaltnPepper said:

Probably but we shouldn't shutdown again.

At this point all we can do is try to step up personal hygiene and don't do anything excessively stupid.

Again 99.8% of people will be fine.

Let's see: 0.2% of 330 million is 660,000. And that's just deaths. At least 10 times that in hospitalizations, so 7 million, many of whom will get financially destroyed by hospital bills, in addition to possible long term effects like fibrosis in their lungs or blood clots. Also, I think it's safe to say your percentage is wrong because if so, that assumes 1 in 3 Americans have already been infected, while most say its probably closer to 1 in 10. So it's probably more accurate to say at least 0.6% die which then equates to about 2 million deaths and 20 million hospitalizations. But we can stick with your numbers for kicks since they're damning enough. 

That being said, I actually agree, believe it or not, with the notion that keeping the country open with certain basic restrictions like capacity limits, while enforcing universally masking and ramping up sanitation efforts is a preferable strategy than going back into a major lockdown. Unfortunately, that requires people actually follow those recommendations and not, for instance, have massive get togethers where they sit shoulder to shoulder maskless and give each other hugs. Either way, I encourage you not to trivialize the serious impact COVID has caused and will cause. It's a slap in the face to everyone who has been personally devastated by it. 

[SaltnPepper]

8 minutes ago, Peon Awesome said:

Let's see: 0.2% of 330 million is 660,000. And that's just deaths. At least 10 times that in hospitalizations, so 7 million, many of whom will get financially destroyed by hospital bills, in addition to possible long term effects like fibrosis in their lungs or blood clots. Also, I think it's safe to say your percentage is wrong because if so, that assumes 1 in 3 Americans have already been infected, while most say its probably closer to 1 in 10. So it's probably more accurate to say at least 0.6% die which then equates to about 2 million deaths and 20 million hospitalizations. But we can stick with your numbers for kicks since they're damning enough. 

That being said, I actually agree, believe it or not, with the notion that keeping the country open with certain basic restrictions like capacity limits, while enforcing universally masking and ramping up sanitation efforts is a preferable strategy than going back into a major lockdown. Unfortunately, that requires people actually follow those recommendations and not, for instance, have massive get togethers where they sit shoulder to shoulder maskless and give each other hugs. Either way, I encourage you not to trivialize the serious impact COVID has caused and will cause. It's a slap in the face to everyone who has been personally devastated by it. 

Certain things are fine.

Certain things are ridiculous. 

For example I work a physical job. It's hard as phuck to breathe with a mask on. 

One extreme example was we were working on a college campus outside and 40 plus feet from the nearest person not on our crew. Someone yelled for us to put on masks.

So I'm for common sense.

My Dad currently has covid. He's in his 70s. He's lost weight and says it sucks but he doesn't support further restrictions. 

The facts are most people don't care and won't follow the most basic guidelines. 

You talk about people ruined by hospital Bill's. On the flip side tons of businesses were ruined as well.

Do I want people to die? No. But the amount of people under 50 having serious cases is infintismaly small. I'm over 50.

Honestly i'm surprised I haven't gotten it. I travel all over the country for work. Hell I just got home from NJ.

[MasterAwesome]

15 hours ago, Bama Panther said:

There’s no need for labeling folks as “ignorant.”  I understand that COVID caused or exasperated the average 2.3 comorbidities in the other 94% of deaths. I understand there is an interplay there.

I get the pandemic is real. I get the 210k deaths and the many hundreds of thousands/millions mourning those losses  I’m not downplaying that. I am not ignorant to that. Like many others, I want to, and am trying to, understand the full extent of this whole thing. The recent comments from the CDC suggesting we may have only accounted for 10% of actual infections in the US further complicate that understanding, as the deaths are would plummet if that is actually the case.

If anything good comes from this pandemic, I hope it includes people generally taking better care of themselves. Eating cleaner. Smoking/drinking less. Exercising more. Caring more, but at the same time, realizing life is fleeting for any number of reasons. 

I called your interpretation ignorant, I didn't label you as such.  That just means you are uninformed or not knowledgeable on that particular topic, which I think you have implicitly admitted in the context of your post by "trying to understand the full extent of this whole thing".  I'm pretty ignorant too on countless topics which is why I try to stay as informed as possible on the important ones.

I respect your desire to seek the truth and become informed, but I have to question how serious you are about that considering, like I said, you would have had countless reputable articles at your fingertips to explain that 6% claim with a simple Google search.  As a general rule of thumb, I would not recommend seeking answers from the Huddle; there are some very dumb people on here.

[Icege]

16 hours ago, Eric4280 said:

100 percent this. Too often I talk with people thatre too afraid to live the normal life again, yet, say they’d never get the vaccine. Do people WANT to play this never ending game of hide and go seek with a virus? I don’t get it. If you fear for it, take your precautions, but don’t let it dictate society going forward. we need to start changing the knowledge people are given and focus on the positive. It’s like people WANT this new way of scared life. Obviously, take your precautions and do your part to stay safe. But to accept that you’re gonna have things shut down forever? It’s nonsense.

I will never understand how some people have equated being concerned for the most vulnerable of our society with being afraid.

I can't even begin to imagine believing that valuing life is a weakness.

 

[SaltnPepper]

11 minutes ago, Icege said:

I will never understand how some people have equated being concerned for the most vulnerable of our society with being afraid.

I can't even begin to imagine believing that valuing life is a weakness.

 

I don't want to get sick nor do I want to make others sick.

But the reality is there is only so much we can do.

Fans in stands? Stupid idea.

Construction workers wearing masks? Stupid idea.

Masks in stores? Good idea.

Masks outside? Stupid idea.

But I do think that those with issues and the elderly should isolate and protect themselves. That the bulk of the responsibility lies with themselves. 

I'm pro sensible precautions. But some of them are just stupid.

[MechaZain]

The League's not going to risk profit loss unless there's overwhelming public demand to (SEE: The Washington Football Team) and sadly I don't see that happening unless some high profile player or staff dies of COVID.

[PanthersNC1984]

4 minutes ago, SaltnPepper said:

I don't want to get sick nor do I want to make others sick.

But the reality is there is only so much we can do.

Fans in stands? Stupid idea.

Construction workers wearing masks? Stupid idea.

Masks in stores? Good idea.

Masks outside? Stupid idea.

But I do think that those with issues and the elderly should isolate and protect themselves. That the bulk of the responsibility lies with themselves. 

I'm pro sensible precautions. But some of them are just stupid.

Exactly! Let’s be real here and call a spade a spade, a lot of people just like to Covid virtue signal by wearing a mask when it literally makes absolutely zero sense to do so in most cases.

[Icege]

8 minutes ago, SaltnPepper said:

I don't want to get sick nor do I want to make others sick.

But the reality is there is only so much we can do.

Fans in stands? Stupid idea.

Construction workers wearing masks? Stupid idea.

Masks in stores? Good idea.

Masks outside? Stupid idea.

But I do think that those with issues and the elderly should isolate and protect themselves. That the bulk of the responsibility lies with themselves. 

I'm pro sensible precautions. But some of them are just stupid.

I'm trying to understand why the outrage for construction workers wearing masks is more prevalent than the 210k+ preventable deaths that have taken place as people have continued to not take those supposedly sensible precautions because they anecdotally find them to be "stupid."

If anything, it just sounds like self-centered individuals being mad that their comfort is threatened while others' lives are.

[hepcat]

No matter where you stand on the issue of masks and what to do about COVID, there is no way the season ends on time unless everyone says fug it, everyone can have COVID.

Because just look at where we stand right now. The Titans are continuing to have guys test positive and will probably miss their second game. Do they forfeit their season? What about other teams that will inevitably have players and staff test positive going forward? 

How long can the NFL keep playing whack-a-mole and try and rescheduling games? They were not proactive AT ALL for this season. They could have stretched out the schedule and incorporated more bye weeks into the schedule to account for games that needed to be rescheduled. Idiots. 

Aside from enforcing a mask policy and restricting fans in the stands (a lot of which are local level restrictions than from the NFL level) - the current model is only going to get worse as we get further into fall. Cases are spiking up all over the country. 

So what do you really think is going to happen? The NFL and people in this country at large are just going to say f*ck it, we'd rather watch football than keep as many people healthy as possible?