For everyone already wringing their hands over losing Joe Brady to a HCing job...

[1of10Charnatives]

Just now, bull123 said:

Great to be excited about our direction...but let’s remember, it has only been 4 games

falcons are reeling and desperate for a win....this weekend will tell us much more

yup yup. Trying not to get too far ahead of myself with enthusiasm but man the changes are refreshing. I suspect we'll have some come back down to earth moments at some point this season, but either way it's looking like a way more fun season than I think most of us imagined. I can certainly live with ups and downs when it looks like long term we're heading up.

[X-Clown]

This place is the king of overreactions...some of my favorites over the years.

Cam will never resign after his rookie contract because Charlotte is too small for him

How are we going to afford to sign Kelvin Benjamin to his second contract (in the middle of his rookie year)

None of our players will ever re-sign a new contract or free agents will sign here because Richardson offended Peyton Manning during the lockout

We need to extend Kyle Allen right now (after his first game)

We should trade for Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Matt Flynn, Nick Mullens, i.e. any QB that looked down on his luck or was a backup but played one good game that everyone watched.

We better hope no one signs Jeff Davidson to be a head coach, because he's an amazing OC

 

[sml1950]

If Brady is bright enough to be a HC, he’s also bright enough to know that he’s not ready.  Head coaching is not all about Xs and Os.  The majority of his time would be working with coaches (after actually putting a staff together) , player personnel, media, putting out fires, etc etc etc. Additionally, in the present environment, he would surely be tagged with the “ white privileged “ brand which would put more pressure on the decision.  He has plenty of time to grow.

[Pantherzack179812]

I think Joe Brady is smart enough not to leave unless it's the right situation. Tepper will also pony up for a solid salary for an OC if this team is winning... Remember how upset the league was when Rhule got 10 million?

[run-run-pass-punt]

4 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

I'd like to invite everyone to just enjoy the process and the journey and not worry about hypothetical poo that might happen in an entertainment industry. It makes it less ... entertaining.

Not just in entertainment but in life in general. So much suffering projecting backwards into the past or forward into some hypothetical future. Breathe in and live in the only moment you have - right now.

[Snake]

6 hours ago, top dawg said:

I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt that Brady is going to be hired after only one successful season. That's really a very small sample size. 

We have some quality personnel, so any OC worth his salt ought to be able to have some success here. 

At the end of the day, the nature of the business is the nature of the business! I think that the some of you just don't realize that old school coaches like Fox and Rivera, who refuse to adapt with the times are not the norm anymore. You can't necessarily afford to be dogmatic in your offensive approach, and Rhule, Tapper, and now even Hurney realizes this and will act accordingly based upon modern analytics.

Well I mean to crap teams he will get calls for sure. Just like Chud did. 

 

[theinstrumental]

This is one of those good problems. Not worried about it

[Matt62881]

11 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

...which btw, a disturbing number of you were already doing before the man had ever coached a single game as an OC at the pro level. Is this going to happen if Brady proves as good as advertised and as he seems atm? Doubtless it will. Will it happen after this season? That is much less certain for a number of reasons.

But let's step back and consider something: If your goal is sustained success in the NFL, then one of the challenges that is always going to bring with it is replacing lost coaching talent. When you do well, your coordinators get hired away to be head coaches, it's a fact of life in the league. So the question anyone worried about losing Brady to success should be asking is:

How much faith do we have in Rhule's ability to identify up and coming talent to replace such coaching losses?

I would suggest that what we're learning about Phil Snow right now, that he seems much better than any of us expected, suggests we can relax a little because it was Rhule, not any of us (and I'm including myself in this) that not only had enough faith in Snow to bring him along to the big time, but wasn't afraid to state publicly that he doesn't believe in firing coaches (remember how uneasy that made a lot of us envisioning Snow in over his head and Rhule stubbornly refusing to make any sort of change). Rhule didn't have to box himself in publicly by making such a statement, in fact he gained nothing by doing so, but it's a strong indicator he had plenty of faith that Snow would do just fine as an NFL DC.

It's still entirely possible that the league will figure out Snow's defense, but so far it doesn't seem predicated on smoke and mirrors, just maximizing his roster's strengths and minimizing it's weaknesses. If Snow still looks like a keeper at the end of the year, I'd suggest we all stop worrying about losing Brady and just have a little faith that if we do, Rhule will find the right person to replace him.

Not to mention the fact we know Tepper won't think twice about paying whoever Rhule wants whatever it takes to get them here.

Curious to see if paid enough would a coordinator forgoe a HC job to remain with a team he is already comfortable with? I think if Brady or Snow is that good Tepper will pay them what he needs to if they would be willing to not take a HC job not to mention not taking on the extra stress of being a HC. 

Also for anyone wondering, no we won't have to worry about this by year's end, we easily have at least 3 years of both as this is their first coordinator jobs at the NFL level that I know of them having. 

[theinstrumental]

9 minutes ago, Matt62881 said:

Also for anyone wondering, no we won't have to worry about this by year's end, we easily have at least 3 years of both as this is their first coordinator jobs at the NFL level that I know of them having. 

Zac Taylor was the QB coach with the Rams the year before the Bengals hired him. He'd been OC for one season in college and one in the pros. Brady could absolutely get hired as a head coach after this year. 

[Matt62881]

3 minutes ago, theinstrumental said:

Zac Taylor was the QB coach with the Rams the year before the Bengals hired him. He'd been OC for one season in college and one in the pros. Brady could absolutely get hired as a head coach after this year. 

Anythings possible but thats got to be rare as it just doesn't make sense to me to hire someone so inexperienced. I'm also assuming that didn't work out well for the Bengals and would Brady rather be a HC for a crappy team or be the highest paid OC for the Panthers and under a HC he knows and likes. 

[Panther'sBigD]

Every season he stays with the Panthers and keeps the offense in the top of the league adds millions to his asking price. He seems like a really sharp guy, so I'm sure he already knows this. Rhule has done this weird coaching voodoo everywhere he's gone, so I'm sure Brady would be well served to stick around a couple of years to see what he can learn from it. Either way, it's fun right now, and that's what's important. 

[Moo Daeng]

27 years to recover

[Agent Blue]

7 hours ago, Matt62881 said:

Anythings possible but thats got to be rare as it just doesn't make sense to me to hire someone so inexperienced. I'm also assuming that didn't work out well for the Bengals and would Brady rather be a HC for a crappy team or be the highest paid OC for the Panthers and under a HC he knows and likes. 

No elite coach is gonna to assume or expect to field a "crappy team". 

If I am Joe Brady, my thinking is I can go coach anywhere and come out on top. 

Obviously, I am gonna want to go somewhere that the owner and GM support and my vision and allow me considerable input in drafting and FA moves. 

 

[1of10Charnatives]

4 minutes ago, Agent Blue said:

 I can go coach anywhere and come out on top. 

A thousand ghosts of Head Coaching careers that died in Cleveland cry out their warning.

"Foolish Mortal"