Why Winning Now Will Cost Us About 15 Years

[SaltnPepper]

16 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

All with a UDFA starting at QB, am I right?

I already stated that Jake was our lottery ticket. 

He was the equivalent of a 5 dollar scratcher paying 10 mil.

 

That's part of my argument. We already used up our "One Time" with Jake.

 

The odds of us winning the lottery like that again before I'm dead are astronomical. 

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, SaltnPepper said:

I already stated that Jake was our lottery ticket. 

He was the equivalent of a 5 dollar scratcher paying 10 mil.

 

That's part of my argument. We already used up our "One Time" with Jake.

 

The odds of us winning the lottery like that again before I'm dead are astronomical. 

Ur maths need wurk.

The odds of winning the lottery period are astronomical. However anyone who knows their maths will tell you that once you have won the lottery, ie got your Jake, the odds of winning the lottery a second time are completely unaffected. To wit, the fact we found Jake does nothing to impact the odds of doing so again go down even further. They remain the same. People have in fact won the lottery twice.

[1of10Charnatives]

45 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Hey can't knock a man with a plan

I can,will, and have if the plan is cheating.

fug that plan and fug Belicheat.

Right in the ass.

With a big rubber dildo.

[SaltnPepper]

5 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Ur maths need wurk.

The odds of winning the lottery period are astronomical. However anyone who knows their maths will tell you that once you have won the lottery, ie got your Jake, the odds of winning the lottery a second time are completely unaffected. To wit, the fact we found Jake does nothing to impact the odds of doing so again go down even further. They remain the same. People have in fact won the lottery twice.

My God it would take such mathematical variance it's crazy and you know it.

Jake was our one time.

 

 

[1of10Charnatives]

Just now, SaltnPepper said:

My God it would take such mathematical variance it's crazy and you know it.

Jake was our one time.

 

 

I know your statement belies a fundamental misunderstanding of the math involved.
 

Jake was a long shot and doing it again would be another long shot but the fact we got Jake has no impact on the odds going forward.

[SaltnPepper]

3 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

I know your statement belies a fundamental misunderstanding of the math involved.
 

Jake was a long shot and doing it again would be another long shot but the fact we got Jake has no impact on the odds going forward.

The point is the members of this board think we'll just go out and find someone. No big deal. There's lots of QBs is farcical at best.

Our outcome is dependent on 31 other teams actions.

This was the only chance we had to control our selection completely. 

[Pantherxtreme]

17 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

I can,will, and have if the plan is cheating.

fug that plan and fug Belicheat.

Right in the ass.

With a big rubber dildo.

I wasn't speaking of Belichick. Talking about the plan of Trevor Lawrence vs Mahomes in the 2026 Super Bowl that OP has envisioned. 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

27 minutes ago, Pantherfan84 said:

This should be re gifted as you are so "chuck" you are really "chuck" for real.

 

[SaltnPepper]

7 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

This should be re gifted as you are so "chuck" you are really "chuck" for real.

 

I really wish I was around for Chuck.

I feel like I missed out.

[weyco2000]

2 hours ago, SaltnPepper said:

The point is the members of this board think we'll just go out and find someone. No big deal. There's lots of QBs is farcical at best.

Our outcome is dependent on 31 other teams actions.

This was the only chance we had to control our selection completely. 

Hopefully you don’t coach little league baseball, you’d tank a season just to draft that slugger coming up from coach pitch. Only to find he can’t hit the curve... lol! Your argument is ridiculous.

[SaltnPepper]

23 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

Hopefully you don’t coach little league baseball, you’d tank a season just to draft that slugger coming up from coach pitch. Only to find he can’t hit the curve... lol! Your argument is ridiculous.

Winning in Little League is the secondary goal of the coach.

The primary goal of youth coaches is to give the kids the skills to adv advance to the next level if they desire.

When you win as a youth coach it's not about you. It's about the kids being able to experience that feeling. You want to win for the kids.

But we are talking about grown men. Where winning is the only goal. 

[weyco2000]

1 hour ago, SaltnPepper said:

Winning in Little League is the secondary goal of the coach.

The primary goal of youth coaches is to give the kids the skills to adv advance to the next level if they desire.

When you win as a youth coach it's not about you. It's about the kids being able to experience that feeling. You want to win for the kids.

But we are talking about grown men. Where winning is the only goal. 

But you stated earlier participation trophies are for losers. 

[raz]

9 hours ago, SaltnPepper said:

The point is the members of this board think we'll just go out and find someone. No big deal. There's lots of QBs is farcical at best.

Our outcome is dependent on 31 other teams actions.

This was the only chance we had to control our selection completely. 

doesn't matter. not happening.  that ship already sailed.  not a thing you can do about it.  will you please shut the f up about it

 

[Jeremy Igo]

On 10/5/2020 at 7:17 PM, SaltnPepper said:

For those of you thinking winning now is the right thing to do let me show you why you are wrong.

First my version of tanking would have been to not sign Davis, Teddy or traded for that OT.

I would have run with what we could keep from last years team and treated the entire season as a roster evaluation thus ensuring the first pick.

So we would coach hard and play hard and probably just come up short in games.

Now I've seen the stupid stink of losing argument on here. Jimmy Johnson took over a 3-13 team. Took Aikman. Went 1-15 in his first season got another number 1 and the rest is history.

Let's look at the Cowboys. They were dominant with Rodger. Dropped off with Danny. Weren't dominant again until they got Troy and since Troy retired they have been bad to ok. The key? Bad owner and no QB. (Romo was not a stud)

Dolphins

Great with Bobby G then after they lost him sucked until Marino and have been irrelevant since he retired. That's long down periods.

Steelers
Dominant with number one overall Terry B. Then they were off the Earth until Cower got there. But horse teeth and Kordell couldn't get it done ( both these guys are Teddy Bridgewater) then they got Ben and were winning championships again.

Packers

Dominant with Bart then drop off the planet until Farve. How long was that? Then they lucked into Rodgers.

Chargers

They had Fouts and were good
Then nothing until Rivers

Giants

Nothing after the 60s until they got Simms
Did ok but dropped with Hostettler
Became obscure until Eli

Bill's

Nothing till Kelly
Nothing since until Allen

I could go on and on with probably every team in the league.

QBs don't grow on trees and y'alls problem is that the Panthers have been rather fortunate in the QB department and success department.


You guys constantly say win now and get a QB later? So when is that going to happen?
10 years from now? 20? 30?

The fact is we had a chance to control our own destiny and do something few teams have ever done move from one great QB to another without years of average in between.

Trevor would have been our chance to build a multiyear dominance now.

You guys constantly throw out Rodgers and others taken outside the top 5. Well that depends on the other teams missing them.

I love Thomas Davis but we should have taken Rodgers. I love CMC but we should have taken Mahomes. We made mistakes both those years. Are you willing to hope other teams are stupid during our search for a QB?

If we start consistently making the playoffs with Teddy but never getting to the NFC championship where is our savior going to come from?

How long will we have to wait?

Winning now if we don't get at least Lance has probably cost at least 15 years of no ring.


Show me why I'm wrong.

This may be the most poo'd on post in Huddle History. 

 

Well done.