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Why Winning Now Will Cost Us About 15 Years


SaltnPepper

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1 hour ago, CanadianCat said:

I get what you guys are saying but I also think that football is very different than most sports where there are so many players. A QB being the most important obviously. 

But there is no sure thing. We had the #1 overall pick in Cam and how many winning seasons did we have with him? It takes a lot more than 1 player. 

Yes and with cam alone he was able to push us to the bring of a super bowl and a 15-1 franchise best season ever. Thats the power of a number 1 pick. He lead us to 3 back to back division titles...  the nfl all time leader in rushing touchdowns at the qb position and he's only 31? That cam? He was a generational talent. Those don't fall.

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Recent number 1 over all picks at QB position.

Joe Burrow - TBD

Kyler Murray - TBD

Baker Mayfield - Still TBD...but.....meh

Goff - Anyone impressed?

Winston - Mr 30/30

Luck - Colts never achieved anything

Newton - We know what happened

Sam Bradford - Greatest Conman ever to get those contracts

Stafford - ..um ok

Jamarcus Russel - No comment

Alex Smith - I mean.  He was ok

 

I can see why one would think, based on the last 15 years, that a number 1 over all pick QB is required to go to the Superbowl.

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1 hour ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Recent number 1 over all picks at QB position.

Joe Burrow - TBD

Kyler Murray - TBD

Baker Mayfield - Still TBD...but.....meh

Goff - Anyone impressed?

Winston - Mr 30/30

Luck - Colts never achieved anything

Newton - We know what happened

Sam Bradford - Greatest Conman ever to get those contracts

Stafford - ..um ok

Jamarcus Russel - No comment

Alex Smith - I mean.  He was ok

 

I can see why one would think, based on the last 15 years, that a number 1 over all pick QB is required to go to the Superbowl.

You guys are dense.

 

Every one of those picks required random chance to happen. 

You'd rather rely on random chance vs controlling your own destiny and picking the guy you absolutely want without having to compromise (skill set)

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2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Yes and with cam alone he was able to push us to the bring of a super bowl and a 15-1 franchise best season ever. Thats the power of a number 1 pick. He lead us to 3 back to back division titles...  the nfl all time leader in rushing touchdowns at the qb position and he's only 31? That cam? He was a generational talent. Those don't fall.

Cam wasn't alone.  We had a good offensive line, Stewart and Olsen were very good, and our defense got a lot of takeaways. In fact, without some critical Josh Norman int's, and a boatload of turnovers committed by famous Jameis, we might have started that season 1-3 or 2-2 as the offense was struggling.  Yeah the receivers weren't probowlers, but there are other positions on the field that are important.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Cam wasn't alone.  We had a good offensive line, Stewart and Olsen were very good, and our defense got a lot of takeaways. In fact, without some critical Josh Norman int's, and a boatload of turnovers committed by famous Jameis, we might have started that season 1-3 or 2-2 as the offense was struggling.  Yeah the receivers weren't probowlers, but there are other positions on the field that are important.

 

 

I heart spanish radio highlights so much and I don't speak a lick of spanish.  I was in the nosebleeds at BOFA for the 2015 NFC Championship game when we destroyed Arizona and the entire row in front of us was hispanic guys with their capes. Every time we scored a touchdown they went apeshit. It wasn't just the most fun I've ever had at a football game, it was was of the greatest nights of my life.  Hispanic football fans are a blast. Those guys know how to celebrate big plays.

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1 hour ago, SaltnPepper said:

You guys are dense.

 

Every one of those picks required random chance to happen. 

You'd rather rely on random chance vs controlling your own destiny and picking the guy you absolutely want without having to compromise (skill set)

the irony of calling anyone dense for picking anyone on that list, but insist we need a first round pick qb is..... wtf man.

you gottttttaaaa be trolling.

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1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Cam wasn't alone.  We had a good offensive line, Stewart and Olsen were very good, and our defense got a lot of takeaways. In fact, without some critical Josh Norman int's, and a boatload of turnovers committed by famous Jameis, we might have started that season 1-3 or 2-2 as the offense was struggling.  Yeah the receivers weren't probowlers, but there are other positions on the field that are important.

 

 

Good offensive line? That line that ended up being the number 1 reason we lost to the broncos? The one von Miller and the gang  Decimated? The line was exposed vs good pass rushers. Cam extending plays made the look better than they were.

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1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Cam wasn't alone.  We had a good offensive line, Stewart and Olsen were very good, and our defense got a lot of takeaways. In fact, without some critical Josh Norman int's, and a boatload of turnovers committed by famous Jameis, we might have started that season 1-3 or 2-2 as the offense was struggling.  Yeah the receivers weren't probowlers, but there are other positions on the field that are important.

 

 

cam made that oline look serviceable, cmon man.

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12 minutes ago, Oldmanrivera said:

the irony of calling anyone dense for picking anyone on that list, but insist we need a first round pick qb is..... wtf man.

you gottttttaaaa be trolling.

Not talking about that list.

I'm saying the teams that got those players got lucky because the other teams didn't take their player.

Face it the odds of getting the guy you want most goes down with every spot in the draft.

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