"Teddy will never be good enough" crowd

[thefuzz]

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Wilson comes across like a robot in a lot of his interviews.  Like he's reading the right lines to say.

There's rumors that the original Seahawks SB team was broken up over Carroll's favoritism towards Wilson.  Whether that has anything to do with Wilson or how he handled things, I don't know.

He seems likable to me.  But I wouldn't say his teammates have loved him at every stop.

Ehhhhhh, I think that Russ's wife had quite a bit to do with that team tearing apart.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Wilson and Rivers (both NCSU guys) both come off as a personality that folks would dislike, I can say, that absolutely is not the case.

Both of them were very down to Earth and would talk to anyone, super nice guys off the field.

Jay Cutler disagrees with you about Philip Rivers 

[LinvilleGorge]

20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wilson has always struck me as a very dislikable guy.

About the only guy I can think of whom I'd be willing to use anything close to the word "hate" toward though is Roethlisberger, and that's because of things a lot bigger than football.

I've never met him but we have mutual friends. Dude comes off as fake as fug but I've been assured it's 100% genuine.

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's preferable but you have to take that QB when the opportunity presents itself. The more ready your roster the further down the draft board you're likely to be reducing your chances of a QB you like being available. I mean, in the ideal world you draft an all-time great in the 6th round and he marries a supermodel who makes more than he does and he continually signs team friendly deals so that he can take the field with SB caliber roster year after year. Good luck duplicating that one though.

QB first, then build like crazy due to low, controlled salary for 5 years.

[thefuzz]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I've never met him but we have mutual friends. Dude comes off as fake as fug but I've been assured it's 100% genuine.

Russ?

If so, that is 100% true.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I've never met him but we have mutual friends. Dude comes off as fake as fug but I've been assured it's 100% genuine.

I get why he would do it, but watching that film from the 2015 playoffs of him going around the sidelines continuously repeating "gonna be the greatest comeback ever" just made him seem extremely punchable.

[TLGPanthersFan]

23 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I get why he would do it, but watching that film from the 2015 playoffs of him going around the sidelines continuously repeating "gonna be the greatest comeback ever" just made him seem extremely punchable.

It was really annoying how the NFL Film barely had the winning team in the video. 
You could tell they wanted us to lose and when we didn’t they had to make the Seahawks look like the good guys. 

[Catsmiaow]

7 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Coaches and coordinators don't give a sh-t about "creating box score stats".

They're trying to win.

I never said they did. I'm talking about public perceptions based off purely looking at box scores. In this case perception doesn't match reality.

[Vagrant]

10 hours ago, PhillyB said:

are you saying that teddy is a better quarterback than those guys or that qbr doesn't always provide the clearest picture of a quarterback's performance?

more like there was probably no logical amount of production other than dragging this corpse of a team to more wins than it deserves that some folks around here would respect and appreciate as league average or slightly above. a lot of this board would rather be pessimistic and interpret themselves as correct than to take an even handed evaluation of the results. teddy has done a good job. he hasn't been the problem. whether he can be the solution remains a bit cloudy because he's not working with a full squad and they're installing a system that nobody had time to learn. factor in the injury to CMC and you have a recipe for a redshirt year for basically all parties. i don't see a lot of people hanging these losses heavy on matt rhule because they understand that his job is a process but they're not giving teddy the same respect even though his measurable production says there's things there worth salvaging moving forward. 

anyone's level of satisfaction with something hinges directly on their expectations, and if anybody had the expectation of a pro bowl season for teddy they were destined to be let down. that isn't why we signed him. for the reasons we signed him, he has done a fairly effective job and our coaches are largely happy with how he has worked out here. so despite the overwhelming feeling to the contrary here on this specific board, NFL evaluators are being very even about what he has done here and need to see more. few are calling this signing a dud and they shouldn't be. most expected this team to be a 5-7 win team and that's right where we are. incremental improvement will be the expectation. 

[TheMaulClaw]

12 hours ago, hepcat said:

Anyone still defending Teddy has to be in his extended family at this point. He's no better than Kyle Allen with 20x the price tag. I said it before the season, during the season, and now.

40x

[raleigh-panther]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Brady and Montana both won multiple Super Bowls with what most would consider lesser arm strength. Heck, even Brad Johnson got a ring.

A West Coast system just doesn't need it. Sure, it's still better to have it but if you build the right team, it's not absolutely essential.

Ok...you really aren’t going there with this comparison are you?

[DaveThePanther2008]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Brady and Montana both won multiple Super Bowls with what most would consider lesser arm strength. Heck, even Brad Johnson got a ring.

A West Coast system just doesn't need it. Sure, it's still better to have it but if you build the right team, it's not absolutely essential.

While I believe that QBs don't necessarily have to have a cannon they have to be able to throw deep accurate passes.  Brady and Montana had good running games with them and would dink and dunk you to sleep.  When you were nice and comfortable they would go over the top.  

The problem with Teddy is two things.  He can't throw deep and when he does it is limited.  His deep passes usually are short and very inaccurate with INT written all over them. 

[tiger7_88]

On 12/1/2020 at 12:40 PM, Mr. Scot said:

Trying to win with whoever.

Hell, even when they had Greg Little out there, they were still trying to win

If they honestly evaluated Greg Little as talented enough to start an NFL game (or games), then they may be "trying to win", but I'll have to question their mental abilities of evaluation and execution.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

idk about this one