"Teddy will never be good enough" crowd

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

My belief on that contract is that they were paying him bridge quarterback money but also hedging their bets that maybe he'd be good enough for something bigger.

At this point, about the only way you could slide him into a backup roll would be to find some way to reduce that salary, and I have a hard time imagining that happening.

If he takes a backup role, it'll probably be with somebody else (Saints would make a lot of sense).

He'll probably earn his money next year, then he'll have a decision to make. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, ChibCU said:

It is preferable to build the supporting roster then reap the rewards of a rookie QB contract from the start. If  you do it the other way, you get about one year on a cheap rookie deal and then you have to pay the man a hefty contract.

It's preferable but you have to take that QB when the opportunity presents itself. The more ready your roster the further down the draft board you're likely to be reducing your chances of a QB you like being available. I mean, in the ideal world you draft an all-time great in the 6th round and he marries a supermodel who makes more than he does and he continually signs team friendly deals so that he can take the field with SB caliber roster year after year. Good luck duplicating that one though.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's preferable but you have to take that QB when the opportunity presents itself. The more ready your roster the further down the draft board you're likely to be reducing your chances of a QB you like being available. I mean, in the ideal world you draft an all-time great in the 6th round and he marries a supermodel who makes more than he does and he continually signs team friendly deals so that he can take the field with SB caliber roster year after year. Good luck duplicating that one though.

That's not an ideal world.

For it to be ideal, the guy you draft would have to not be an arrogant, insufferable prick.

[CRA]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's not an ideal world.

For it to be ideal, the guy you draft would have to not be an arrogant, insufferable prick.

Tom Brady is essentially Cam Newton.   

You love him as a person if he plays for your team.  You hate him if he doesn't. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, CRA said:

Tom Brady is essentially Cam Newton.   

You love him as a person if he plays for your team.  You hate him if he doesn't. 

I can understand that, but Brady honestly comes across to me as a guy I'd dislike regardless.

Ditto with Aaron Rodgers. Hell, even his own family doesn't like him.

[PNW_PantherMan]

It'd be hard for me to dislike anyone that won 6 Super Bowls for my team, but that might just be me.

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can understand that, but Brady honestly comes across to me as a guy I'd dislike regardless.

Ditto with Aaron Rodgers. Hell, even his own family doesn't like him.

I would guess that the overwhelming majority of NFL fans disliked Cam and felt the same when he was in Carolina. 

I kinda agree on Rodgers.  But he isn't as polarizing as Tom/Cam types IMO.  Probably just the lack of multiple rings that keep the Rodgers hate in check.  Wilson probably gets more hate for being such a phony.  Or at least appearing to be one.  Maybe he is just that lame. 

[rippadonn]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep. Constantly checking down is how you have a great completion percentage and great on target percentage.

Aaaaaaand keep the paychecks rolling in because stats nerds have your back.

They'd better find a real deal NFL QB and sign that guy.

Trying to pass off an obvious backup QB as a starter after putting a foot in the ars of a Panther great is inexcusable and unacceptable.

On that precedent alone, they better fix this because, ain't nobody got time to be watching 2nd team talent at 1st team prices.

I can't see him doing one more season here without a major uprising among the fan base.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I would guess that the overwhelming majority of NFL fans disliked Cam and felt the same when he was in Carolina. 

I kinda agree on Rodgers.  But he isn't as polarizing as Tom/Cam types IMO.  Probably just the lack of multiple rings that keep the Rodgers hate in check.  Wilson probably gets more hate for being such a phony.  Or at least appearing to be one.  Maybe he is just that lame. 

Wilson has always struck me as a very dislikable guy.

About the only guy I can think of whom I'd be willing to use anything close to the word "hate" toward though is Roethlisberger, and that's because of things a lot bigger than football.

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wilson has always struck me as a very dislikable guy.

About the only guy I can think of whom I'd be willing to use anything close to the word "hate" toward though is Roethlisberger, and that's because of things a lot bigger than football.

His teammates have loved him at every stop.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

His teammates have loved him at every stop.

Wilson or Roethlisberger?

I'm gonna guess you're talking about Wilson because just a few years back, SI had an extensive article about just how many of Roethlisberger's teammates and people within the Steelers organization hated him.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Wilson comes across like a robot in a lot of his interviews.  Like he's reading the right lines to say.

There's rumors that the original Seahawks SB team was broken up over Carroll's favoritism towards Wilson.  Whether that has anything to do with Wilson or how he handled things, I don't know.

He seems likable to me.  But I wouldn't say his teammates have loved him at every stop.

[Mr. Scot]

I had forgotten about that, but yeah there were some alleged behind the scenes issues surrounding Wilson.

I think Richard Sherman was one of the guys involved, if I remember correctly.

[thefuzz]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wilson has always struck me as a very dislikable guy.

About the only guy I can think of whom I'd be willing to use anything close to the word "hate" toward though is Roethlisberger, and that's because of things a lot bigger than football.

Wilson and Rivers (both NCSU guys) both come off as a personality that folks would dislike, I can say, that absolutely is not the case.

Both of them were very down to Earth and would talk to anyone, super nice guys off the field.