Derrick Brown showing his true value

[Jeremy Igo]

Derrick Brown is starting to get double teams much more frequently. 

Example:

Two Chargers offensive line players dedicated solely on Brown allowing another player, this time Obada, to win his one on one matchup and force Herbert into a bad throw. 

Doesn't show on the stat sheet, but damn does having Brown in there make things easier. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Double teamed and still collapsing the pocket.

[Jeremy Igo]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Double teamed and still collapsing the pocket.

Dude is already a legit NFL defensive tackle 3 games into his career. 

 

Is going to be a BEAST when it is all said and done. 

[Vagrant]

that wasn't a double team. that was flashing an overload blitz to the left side that left the RG out of the protection scheme and he didn't even really engage with Brown because Brown got stood up by his blocker. the RG was just trying to find somebody to put a helmet on but nobody was schemed to go his way. great individual effort by obada and fantastic drop into coverage by chinn. not saying this means anything about brown or that it doesn't, but this wasn't a double team. 

[Carl Spackler]

3 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Dude is already a legit NFL defensive tackle 3 games into his career. 

 

Is going to be a BEAST when it is all said and done. 

I love having a guy who can just eat up space in the middle. Been years since we had that and once we get a MLB, the foundation of the defense will be set 

[Jeremy Igo]

1 minute ago, Vagrant said:

he didn't even really engage with Brown because Brown got stood up by his blocker.

Watch the initial contact again. Both linemen engage. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Vagrant said:

that wasn't a double team. that was flashing an overload blitz to the left side that left the RG out of the protection scheme and he didn't even really engage with Brown because Brown got stood up by his blocker. the RG was just trying to find somebody to put a helmet on but nobody was schemed to go his way. great individual effort by obada and fantastic drop into coverage by chinn. not saying this means anything about brown or that it doesn't, but this wasn't a double team. 

It wasn't a planned double team, but planned or not when you have two guys blocking one defender that's a double team.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

It wasn't a planned double team, but planned or not when you have two guys blocking one defender that's a double team.

Yeah, on second look that was absolutely planned.

[Vagrant]

11 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Watch the initial contact again. Both linemen engage. 

for sure. i think that's just because linemen are wired to take the most immediate threat or assist on the block that looks most suspect until pressure arrives designed for them. a late blitzer would have belonged to the RG but nobody came so he just tried to find someone to touch. again, not saying that means anything about brown in a negative or positive way. he was just on the opposite side of where they attacked and obada got through that LG very impressively. 

[Jeremy Igo]

Just now, Vagrant said:

for sure. i think that's just because linemen are wired to take the most immediate threat or assist on the block that looks most suspect until pressure arrives designed for them. a late blitzer would have belonged to the RG but nobody came so he just tried to find someone to touch. again, not saying that means anything about brown in a negative or positive way. he was just on the opposite side of where they attacked and obada got through that LG very impressively. 

Yep, I like Obada on the inside on passing downs. He seems to be much more effective there than at end. 

[Harbingers]

16 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Dude is already a legit NFL defensive tackle 3 games into his career. 

 

Is going to be a BEAST when it is all said and done. 

If he can get up to Star status that would be awesome. we have been severely lacking a young DT that works the double team for less personal stats. KK was never that person and I don't get why people think he should be. KK is the DT/DE-alt where as Star was essentially the nose tackle of a 4-3.

[Harbingers]

16 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Watch the initial contact again. Both linemen engage. 

More aptly, Brown engaged both lineman. Giving 91 the one on one to collapse that side of the pocket. That is actually a beautiful pass rushing feat.

[Vagrant]

14 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Yep, I like Obada on the inside on passing downs. He seems to be much more effective there than at end. 

he definitely works better when he has a little space to use his speed but he's not as good when someone touches him. he gets swallowed up by stronger linemen and doesn't really have the get off moves to still make the play after that. it's a problem that a lot of our pass rushers have is that they have an immense speed advantage but not as much by way of being able to use their secondary moves to stay in the play. we need a charles johnson who is going to drive the LT back far enough to create some lanes for that speed to get skinny through. brown will help with that on the inside but our ends are still all these hybrid guys who don't get a lot of push. 

[hepcat]

I can't believe people were already calling him a bust. Him and Chinn are going to be on this defense for a long time.