Next Gen Teddy

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

look to your goddamn right

That was my first thought--reminds me of Weinke. 

[Mother Grabber]

Chargers happen to be 4th in defensive hurry % and 5th in defensive pressure %, so a lot of quick dump offs are expected. Note, they do that while being 31st in blitz %.

[jfra78]

Looks like a lot of screens, I'm glad we can actually run them with efficiency now

[Waldo]

Reliable but unimpressive. Couldn't get it into the endzone except one time out of 8 trips to the red zone? That's 12.5%.

I would still take Herbert 10 times out of 10 vs Teddy as a QB for a team. That's the difference in ok and could be very good. Even with dumb ass coaching and rookie QB mistakes, they were in the game because we couldn't pull away from them. 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Poor man's Alex Smith.

[hepcat]

Teddy is a passive QB. Meaning he takes what the defense gives him. Defenses don’t adjust to him, he adjusts to them. 

He does enough to manage a game and can complete throws, but doesn’t attack defenses like an active QB would do.

An active QB has the arm talent to force defenses to adjust to what he’s doing. Like Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, etc.

Bridgewater just doesn’t have that kind of arm talent. Defenses aren’t scared of Teddy slicing them up down the field. The Chargers had 8 men in the box most of the game and dared Teddy to beat them deep. Finally, in the 4th quarter, Teddy made them pay on a couple deep throws to DJ Moore. Why they couldn’t take a deep shot at the end zone sooner in the game after 5 trips into the red zone? No idea. 

But overall, Teddy is too passive, especially in the red zone. 
 

 

[Monrowed]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

look to your goddamn right

If I were a defensive coordinator, then I would look at all of his completions and see that he doesn’t like to go to the deep right. It is the same route for about the same distance that he goes to for the deep pass.

[raleigh-panther]

49 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Miracle into him the way KC did when it took Mahomes with the 10th pick?

Or the way Green Bay did when it took Rogers with the 20th (iirc) pick?

Or the way Seattle found Wilson in the 3rd round?

Or Brees got picked in the 2nd?

Brady in the 6th?

Also I would posit that if you look at the highly drafted qb's that did well (Rothlisberger, both Mannings, Rivers, etc etc.) vs highly drafted qb's that went nowhere (pretty much anyone drafted by the Jets, Dolphins and Browns in the past 20 years) a key and meaningful difference between the two sets would be the quality of the rosters they joined.

I think if you examine the history of the modern NFL closely, it's very possible that in the ultimate team sport, drafting a highly rated qb prospect in the first carries a high risk of wasting the pick if you then put him on a craptacular roster and expect him to magically lift the whole team by himself, as opposed to building a solid roster and then finding a quality prospect who does not necessarily have to hear his name called in the first 90 minutes of the draft.

And with Hurney, Claussen in the second. Stefan Leflors, etc. 

Hurney isn’t a guy I would want drafting rds 2 plus

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, Monrowed said:

If I were a defensive coordinator, then I would look at all of his completions and see that he doesn’t like to go to the deep right. It is the same route for about the same distance that he goes to for the deep pass.

It's definitely becoming quite the trend. His week 2 chart looks disturbingly similar.

He tried throwing more to the right in week one. He only went 7/14, but did have a TD. 

If you recall, Cam's passing numbers to the right side of the field in his brief stint last season were awful too. We thought it had something to do with his shoulder, but did it? I think there might be more to this than just Teddy or Cam's shoulder last year. Do our QBs not trust their blindside protection so they're looking to the left more to see the rush? I don't know, but there seems to be something there.

[Pantherxtreme]

23 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Reliable but unimpressive. Couldn't get it into the endzone except one time out of 8 trips to the red zone? That's 12.5%.

I would still take Herbert 10 times out of 10 vs Teddy as a QB for a team. That's the difference in ok and could be very good. Even with dumb ass coaching and rookie QB mistakes, they were in the game because we couldn't pull away from them. 

 

And you would have lost those turnovers killed the Chargers. 

[jfra78]

13 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Teddy is a passive QB. Meaning he takes what the defense gives him. Defenses don’t adjust to him, he adjusts to them. 

He does enough to manage a game and can complete throws, but doesn’t attack defenses like an active QB would do.

An active QB has the arm talent to force defenses to adjust to what he’s doing. Like Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, etc.

Bridgewater just doesn’t have that kind of arm talent. Defenses aren’t scared of Teddy slicing them up down the field. The Chargers had 8 men in the box most of the game and dared Teddy to beat them deep. Finally, in the 4th quarter, Teddy made them pay on a couple deep throws to DJ Moore. Why they couldn’t take a deep shot at the end zone sooner in the game after 5 trips into the red zone? No idea. 

But overall, Teddy is too passive, especially in the red zone. 
 

 

Chris Harris got injured allowing DJ to get open

[Jeremy Igo]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's definitely becoming quite the trend. His week 2 chart looks disturbingly similar.

He tried throwing more to the right in week one. He only went 7/14, but did have a TD. 

If you recall, Cam's passing numbers to the right side of the field in his brief stint last season were awful too. We thought it had something to do with his shoulder, but did it? I think there might be more to this than just Teddy or Cam's shoulder last year. Do our QBs not trust their blindside protection so they're looking to the left more to see the rush? I don't know, but there seems to be something there.

I watched every teddy pass on gamepass from Sunday's game. There really wan't much available to the right on his throws. There was one where Anderson was open in the endzone to the right but that was about it. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Jeremy Igo said:

I watched every teddy pass on gamepass from Sunday's game. There really wan't much available to the right on his throws. There was one where Anderson was open in the endzone to the right but that was about it. 

Are we scheming our offense to the left? One way or the other, we have to figure out how to threaten the right side of the field. 

[Jeremy Igo]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Are we scheming our offense to the left? One way or the other, we have to figure out how to threaten the right side of the field. 

No, we had guys over there. They just weren't open. Maybe that's where the Raiders stronger DBs were. I don't know enough about them.