Bump this thread every time Bridgewater doesn't throw it into the endzone

[Pantherxtreme]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He only has 33 less rushing yards than Jackson so far this season and is tied for the most rushing TDs in the NFL with 4. That's pretty game changing.

If he keeps it up for entire season I'll be impressed. 

 

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll never argue that Cam is highly consistent as a passer. He definitely runs hot and cold. Always has likely always will. But, in the second half of that game, he absolutely looked like 2015 Cam and again, completing DEEP passes vs. prevent D is impressive. That's specifically what prevent D is trying to prevent.

Yes I saw the game, Cam was making some good throws he and Edelman had a heck of a game. No one has said Cam is not good anymore.

But for you guys to act like what he's doing is leaps and bound better than what Teddy has done for the Panthers this season is rather amusing. 

[Navy_football]

Teddy is our QB. I want him to have success because that would mean the Panthers are having success. He's having a better year passing than Cam and it's mostly due to the fact that he's in an offense he's more familiar with. Joe Brady realized that and that's why Teddy's here instead of Cam. It makes sense - in the short term.

But can we stop the Cam Newton comparison? Cam has been with the Pats all of 3 months (during a friggin pandemic), with a whopping 3 NFL starts in that offense. That alone should mean he'll struggle early on. 

And let's not forget that teams have to prepare for Cam in a way they don't prepare for most other QBs. You think the fear of Cam running doesn't dictate success from their running backs. When was the last time Burkhead had 3 TDs in a game? He's on pace to have his best season as a pro after 8 seasons. If you think Cam doesn't have anything to do with that, then...

[t96]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

Apparently? He hasn’t at all.
 

He used that shoulder so much in the second half of the Seattle game he had nothing for Las Vegas the following week. Much like the time we needed to bring Allen in to attempt that Hail Mary for Cam. 
 

When we were running Cam like NE is everyone here would blast Shula and say that we can‘t have him running so much. Now that he’s older, has had more injuries and New England is doing it, apparently it’s perfectly fine... go figure. The days of prime Cam are long gone and NE is using every ounce of energy Cam has left up really quick. Carolina wasn’t winning a SB this year even if they had Mahomes. To prolong the Cam situation with a new staff and other issues would’ve been a terrible idea for the sake of the future of this franchise.

I say apparently because I didn't actually watch all of his throws those games, going based off of stats and what others say, and the little I have seen. What I have seen from him supports the notion but I didn't want to make a hard claim without having watched all the games myself.

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

155 yards and no touchdowns is not a good game as a passer. He was terrible against the Raiders and if he was better in the first half against Seattle they wouldn't have been down so much and having to play catchup (unsuccessfully).

They were tied with the seahawks at halftime. Cam played well in the first half. They would have led if not for a missed field goal and a bad playcall that took the patriots out of field goal range.

As for game 1, there was no need to throw. They had control of the game from the start. Cam played well.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

He was highly consistent in 2015. 1 half looking like 2015 Cam out of 6 isn't very good when the other 5 halves have been as bad as they've been. He's still a threat as a runner so that does help, but I think it's pretty clear from his time here that you can't rely on his legs to win you games over the course of a full season. We only ever had success with Cam when he was consistent and efficient as a passer, which he has not even been close to this year.

Moving on from Cam wasn't to my liking, but I would've been okay with it had we not gone out and signed a journeyman to a three year $60M contract. That screamed striving for mediocrity. If we draft a QB in the 1st next year solidifying that we were simply using Teddy as a stop gap and wet nurse then I'll shut up about it. LOL!

[t96]

Just now, Car123 said:

They were tied with the seahawks at halftime. Cam played well in the first half. They would have led if not for a missed field goal and a bad playcall that took the patriots out of field goal range.

As for game 1, there was no need to throw. They had control of the game from the start. Cam played well.

Ok first 3 quarters then. Cam threw a bad pick and Seahawks went up several scores. All of Cam's stats came after that. They had control because of a pick 6 on the first play and then Cam's inability to move the offense the rest of the game was a big reason they went down a couple scores in the 4th.

[Bronn]

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

When we were running Cam like NE is everyone here would blast Shula and say that we can‘t have him running so much. Now that he’s older, has had more injuries and New England is doing it, apparently it’s perfectly fine... go figure. The days of prime Cam are long gone and NE is using every ounce of energy Cam has left up really quick. Carolina wasn’t winning a SB this year even if they had Mahomes. To prolong the Cam situation with a new staff and other issues would’ve been dumb.

This post won't age well.

I've said it elsewhere. Bill has fooled a lot of people into thinking they are going to be using Cam as a rusher more than they will. You already saw them run Cam less and open up the run game with RBs and display some more variety in the passing game the past two weeks. They don't have a lot of talent at WR right now, but I expect them to gel a little more/bring in some more talent in the coming weeks.

He has less talent around him in NE than he had here, and he is doing a pretty good job so far. By the end of the year, I think he'll end up having better of a year than he had most years here, actually.

[Jeremy Igo]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think you'll be impressed.

He had a 20 yard completion and a 30 yard completion. 

The 20 yarder was against a prevent defense. They were just keeping all the receivers in front of them. No one was near Damiere. 

The 30 yarder was a good throw by Cam against single safety defense. Not prevent. Edleman won the battle with jamal adams. 

[Navy_football]

3 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

If he keeps it up for entire season I'll be impressed. 

 

Yes I saw the game, Cam was making some good throws he and Edelman had a heck of a game. No one has said Cam is not good anymore.

But for you guys to act like what he's doing is leaps and bound better than what Teddy has done for the Panthers this season is rather amusing. 

He and Edelman had a good game. Ok. That was Edelman's best game as a pro. Ever. In Cam's 2nd start in that offense on that team. 

Teddy is AWESOME at what he does. But he has limitations. That doesn't mean the TEAM can't win with him at the helm. He does more than enough to win games. But it'll always take a full TEAM effort. Cam can win games that the TEAM has no business winning. 

[t96]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Moving on from Cam wasn't to my liking, but I would've been okay with it had we not gone out and signed a journeyman to a three year $60M contract. That screamed striving for mediocrity. If we draft a QB in the 1st next year solidifying that we were simply using Teddy as a stop gap and wet nurse then I'll shut up about it. LOL!

I'm not a big Teddy fan either, and he's actually been slightly worse than I had expected/hoped for. I don't think he's been great this year and I hope to god he's not the long term solution (can't imagine it), just a stopgap/bridge QB for a young guy we bring in to groom. Teddy can play the Alex Smith role perfectly, he's the ideal teammate and has a great knowledge of the game, just isn't great on the field. I have no doubt he'd be an amazing mentor to a young QB who can help him get up to speed and also learn Brady's offense, and that is likely why he was brought in. But people need to drop the Cam stuff, it was the right decision to let him go. Signing Teddy to a big deal has nothing to do with Cam or the decision to release him and move on.

[KSpan]

2 hours ago, Pantherfan84 said:

Less than half of this forum knows anything about football. Thanks for calling that out, you can't throw anything in the end zone if your play call don't put anyone in there. They played for the fg that play before the half. Everyone says oh Teddy can't throw over 20+ yards yeah ok. If you want to complain blame Joe Brady it's his offense. This is why Cam isn't here he would never fit this offense.

Brady saying that he picked Teddy because he fit the offense that would be run is a very valid point to keep in mind and I'm glad it was mentioned. It goes both ways though, as perhaps Brady would call different plays with a different quarterback with different capabilities and that would lead to different, possibly better, outcomes.

Lot of hypotheticals but the reality is Teddy is here with strengths and deficiencies just like any player. It's definitely on Brady and the staff to leverage them to the offense's advantage.

[Car123]

3 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

He had a 20 yard completion and a 30 yard completion. 

The 20 yarder was against a prevent defense. They were just keeping all the receivers in front of them. No one was near Damiere. 

The 30 yarder was a good throw by Cam against single safety defense. Not prevent. Edleman won the battle with jamal adams. 

It was a 50 yarder...

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

He had a 20 yard completion and a 30 yard completion. 

The 20 yarder was against a prevent defense. They were just keeping all the receivers in front of them. No one was near Damiere. 

The 30 yarder was a good throw by Cam against single safety defense. Not prevent. Edleman won the battle with jamal adams. 

You missed the 50 yarder that traveled 60 in the air.

[Navy_football]

3 minutes ago, t96 said:

I'm not a big Teddy fan either, and he's actually been slightly worse than I had expected/hoped for. I don't think he's been great this year and I hope to god he's not the long term solution (can't imagine it), just a stopgap/bridge QB for a young guy we bring in to groom. Teddy can play the Alex Smith role perfectly, he's the ideal teammate and has a great knowledge of the game, just isn't great on the field. I have no doubt he'd be an amazing mentor to a young QB who can help him get up to speed and also learn Brady's offense, and that is likely why he was brought in. But people need to drop the Cam stuff, it was the right decision to let him go. Signing Teddy to a big deal has nothing to do with Cam or the decision to release him and move on.

I agree with everything you said about Teddy, but I still don't think letting Cam go was the right move. I understand why. I understand the logic. I just don't agree.