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Official Panthers at Chargers Gameday Thread

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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8 minutes ago, SaltnPepper said:

I'm going to explain it to you.

If you have a top 5 QB your chance of winning a championship goes way up.

Not all top QB prospects are equal. Trevor could be the best QB in the next 3 to 5 drafts with everyone else being a step below.

This win makes it harder to get him.

Thus hurting our wins in future years and very likely keeping us in our traditional 7-9 11-5 spot.

Never bad enough to get better and never good enough to win it all.

That's why it's bad.

You either want to win it all or have the number 1 pick and there's no chance in hell we can win it all this year. 

Pssst....we weren't bad enough to get him anyway. 

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10 minutes ago, SaltnPepper said:

I'm going to explain it to you.

If you have a top 5 QB your chance of winning a championship goes way up.

Not all top QB prospects are equal. Trevor could be the best QB in the next 3 to 5 drafts with everyone else being a step below.

This win makes it harder to get him.

Thus hurting our wins in future years and very likely keeping us in our traditional 7-9 11-5 spot.

Never bad enough to get better and never good enough to win it all.

That's why it's bad.

You either want to win it all or have the number 1 pick and there's no chance in hell we can win it all this year. 

Let me explain something to you. 

It doesn't matter if your QB is a #1 pick, top 5 or top 10. If your offensive line can't provide championship protection, you'd still win games here and there or maybe have winning seasons every other year but no championship. 

As far as Trevor goes, no rookie is a sure bet. That's why there's a process used to help make teams comfortable with the selections. It's more about the fit than the player. A top 5 player that doesn't fit his drafted teams scheme & or coaches style, isn't going to play up to expectations.

Anyone expecting an entire professional organization to lay down, intentionally lose, not even try to improve for an entire season, tell all their fans and PSL Owners that we're trashing this session to put all our future eggs in the Andrew Luck.. I meant Trevor Lawrence basket is well...not right bright!

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3 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Let me explain something to you. 

It doesn't matter if your QB is a #1 pick, top 5 or top 10. If your offensive line can't provide championship protection, you'd still win games here and there or maybe have winning seasons every other year but no championship. 

As far as Trevor goes, no rookie is a sure bet. That's why there's a process used to help make teams comfortable with the selections. It's more about the fit than the player. A top 5 player that doesn't fit his drafted teams scheme & or coaches style, isn't going to play up to expectations.

Anyone expecting an entire professional organization to lay down, intentionally lose, not even try to improve for an entire season, tell all their fans and PSL Owners that we're trashing this session to put all our future eggs in the Andrew Luck.. I meant Trevor Lawrence basket is well...not right bright!

Quickest way for Coach Rhule to destroy his credibility and lose his players trust?

Tanking this season.

Not gonna happen.

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15 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Let me explain something to you. 

It doesn't matter if your QB is a #1 pick, top 5 or top 10. If your offensive line can't provide championship protection, you'd still win games here and there or maybe have winning seasons every other year but no championship. 

As far as Trevor goes, no rookie is a sure bet. That's why there's a process used to help make teams comfortable with the selections. It's more about the fit than the player. A top 5 player that doesn't fit his drafted teams scheme & or coaches style, isn't going to play up to expectations.

Anyone expecting an entire professional organization to lay down, intentionally lose, not even try to improve for an entire season, tell all their fans and PSL Owners that we're trashing this session to put all our future eggs in the Andrew Luck.. I meant Trevor Lawrence basket is well...not right bright!

I'm amazed at the football knowledge here.

You don't draft a talent like TL to fit your system. You design the system around the talent.

You don't draft OL then try to draft a QB you'll never get another chance.

TL and bring him slow

2nd ol

3rd lb

Then get another top 5 pick

LT

 

As far as intentionally laying down I am not. My process would to not have signed tons of FA and played as many young guys as possible giving them valuable snaps and getting great analysis on them.

This process pays off in year 3 in coached up home grown talent and cap space.

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13 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Got nothin huh?

Sure was just eating dinner. 

Brady a 1 in a billion lottery ticket and we've seen two of those in my lifetime so he's not really a valid point.

Prescott doesn't belong in the same conversation as the other 3. He's a great value but Tony Romo 2.0. Not going to get it done.

Russell. Anyone from this state that hates NC State knew long ago that RW is The Devil. Anyone who saw what he did at that God awful place knew he was incredibly underdrafted. You are giving Marty way too much credit if you think he'll have a second win like that. Jake used up his one time.

Mahomes is the only valid point you made and I don't remember how the draft fell that year off the top of my head probably because of ESPN cutting to commercial during our pick and sending me into my yearly rage.

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51 minutes ago, SaltnPepper said:

Sure was just eating dinner. 

Brady a 1 in a billion lottery ticket and we've seen two of those in my lifetime so he's not really a valid point.

Prescott doesn't belong in the same conversation as the other 3. He's a great value but Tony Romo 2.0. Not going to get it done.

Russell. Anyone from this state that hates NC State knew long ago that RW is The Devil. Anyone who saw what he did at that God awful place knew he was incredibly underdrafted. You are giving Marty way too much credit if you think he'll have a second win like that. Jake used up his one time.

Mahomes is the only valid point you made and I don't remember how the draft fell that year off the top of my head probably because of ESPN cutting to commercial during our pick and sending me into my yearly rage.

Cam had three winning seasons with Carolina.  He was an undeniably talented QB/#1 pick.  It takes SO much more than that to win a Super bowl.

Dallas looks legit this season and much of that has to do with Dak at QB.  That not withstanding, in the NFL you don't need the #1 pick to find a winning QB to build a Super Bowl winning team around.  Look no further than recent SB history if for some reason you doubt me. 

Sadly, Carolina Panthers fans should know this  better than most, selecting a QB with the #1 pick won't ensure a franchise's success.

Rhule's our coach and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now. 

Clearly his plans don't align with your own.

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