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I am impressed and encouraged by the amount of fan optimism this season!


hepcat

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While the jury is still out on Tepper, I think people are just excited to have wholesale organizational level change for the first time in franchise history. It’s been long overdue, whether it turns out well or not for Tepper. Hopefully his leadership and people he’s brought in will prove to be great for the team in the long run.

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Good post! For me, personally, o optimism is easier to come by because I had low expectations coming into this season. Teddy hasn't been mvp caliber, but he's held his own, Chinn has stood out, Brown looks as good as expected, Douglas has been a great last minute find. That's plenty to build on even if we're a bottom five team this year.

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1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

Good post! For me, personally, o optimism is easier to come by because I had low expectations coming into this season. Teddy hasn't been mvp caliber, but he's held his own, Chinn has stood out, Brown looks as good as expected, Douglas has been a great last minute find. That's plenty to build on even if we're a bottom five team this year.

R. Anderson is looking like a great offseason signing too.  

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so last night i heard aikman say that jacksonville has instituted a policy that the best player plays despite where they were drafted. aikman went on to talk about how lower round draft picks get set up for failure on purpose, or thru the team actively trying to make their upper picks succeed.  

wtf?  they had to institute a policy?   i can't get my head around how normal it is for teams/gm's/coaches so actively trying to pat themselves on the back trying to make their picks succeed rather than playing the best players.

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the board is just generally older.

this is my like the third total rebuild i've witness, second since i've known what the fug i was watching

we all know it's part of the cycle. playoff success aside, the panthers have been lucky to have a lot of talented, likeable teams over the past twenty years. this team not so much, but it'll get there again.

the other thing is there is just too much going on in the world to care that much about the panthers. even as just a temporary escape i personally can't enjoy it that much just because i now it shouldn't be happening. and as soon as the game stops, a game which they inevitably do poorly in, instead of trying to pick out the good things I get to remember that monday is about to happen again. 

my girlfriend just bought her first panthers shirt. she's excited to share this part of my life with me. I pity her. 

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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

 

my girlfriend just bought her first panthers shirt. she's excited to share this part of my life with me. I pity her. 

welcome to my personal hell baby!  remember when you realize what you've done, that you decided to walk in the door

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1 minute ago, raz said:

so last night i heard aikman say that jacksonville has instituted a policy that the best player plays despite where they were drafted. aikman went on to talk about how lower round draft picks get set up for failure on purpose, or thru the team actively trying to make their upper picks succeed.  

wtf?  they had to institute a policy?   i can't get my head around how normal it is for teams/gm's/coaches so actively trying to pat themselves on the back trying to make their picks succeed rather than playing the best players.

It happens in every sport to an extent. The investment in higher round draft choices always gives them much more leeway than lower round draft picks. It happens in college football and basketball recruiting as well. You want the guys perceived as being more talented to achieve that potential because their ceiling is often higher(unless it's a Hurney pick) versus a very capable later round draft pick that might be able to outplay the more talented guy. It may not be that they are actively not playing their best players but that if you are getting relatively equal output(or lack thereof) from a higher draft pick versus a lower round draft pick, it's easier to justify keeping that higher round draft pick in the hopes they will eventually pan out. Basically just sunk cost mentality.

That's where you have to give a team like Arizona credit for dumping a high round QB so quickly versus dragging that experiment out for a few years before eventually giving up. This allowed them to pivot quickly and now appear to have gotten a real franchise QB in record time. 

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The lack of preseason may also have "helped" here.  Possible we're in a preseason mode right now where we're convincing ourselves player X could be great, a couple good decisions mean awesome coaches, and football is just back.  

Overall, outside of a couple boneheaded decisions, I'm still hopeful and optimistic about the coaching staff.  Snow looks to be the future pariah, but he was also dealt a poo sandwich to work with. A lot of the hope and optimism of course is coming from the shot to get a high draft pick.  The minute we screw that up...this place will be ready to burn it all to the ground.  The season has gone "perfect" IMO for a rebuilding team.  At times fun and competitive games, figuring out which young guys can flash and stick around, and still losing in the end.  We have some parallels to the Cardinals going on, and their bottom out/fun team/playoff contender 3 year strategy sounds good to me. 

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45 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

my girlfriend just bought her first panthers shirt. she's excited to share this part of my life with me. I pity her. 

Ouch. My wife is a from Massachusetts and a lifelong Pats fan. It’s been weird semi-rooting for the Pats because of Cam, but I did want them to stomp the Seahawks. Listening to her “old-school” dad contort his brain to avoid complimenting Cam has been hilarious. “I’m just glad everyone stood for the anthem” and “I don’t like his showboating” are a few of the veiled things he has said haha

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12 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Ouch. My wife is a from Massachusetts and a lifelong Pats fan. It’s been weird semi-rooting for the Pats because of Cam, but I did want them to stomp the Seahawks. Listening to her “old-school” dad contort his brain to avoid complimenting Cam has been hilarious. “I’m just glad everyone stood for the anthem” and “I don’t like his showboating” are a few of the veiled things he has said haha

That is an insanely racist crowd up there. Only people to start calling Cam a "thug" completely unprompted when I was at the Raleigh Pats bar. We weren't even playing those pricks, they had to go out of their way to inform me he was a thug because I was wearing the jersey. 

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