NFL Passing Leaders

[WestPanthers]

Great, so we can trade him for a rd1 draft pick next year.

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think I would define it strictly by coverage but it is subjective.

But I apply it across the board. As I showed with an example that no one would have considered. Not fit it into whatever narrative I need it to. 
 

  Why not coverage. This has already shown no one can agree on any numbers. Coverage is the entire key to garbage time. What do you suggest using that is more relevant than what’s happening on the field? 

[Toomers]

7 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

It isn't about coverage, that is not what defines garbage time. Lol.  So 2 minute defenses before the end of halves in tied games are garbage time?

edit: I mean given it isn't defined anywhere in any real sense you can make up any definition you want for it.

personally, I apply garbage time to any yardage a QB generates I find objectionable. 

No. Because teams play the end of the half to prevent any score. Teams up multiple scores are willing to give up a FG or a TD as long as it takes awhile. 

  I’m sorry I hurt you delicate sensibilities. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

5 minutes ago, Daywa1ker said:

Nobody cares, are you just going to keep post little digs until someone acknowledges you?

I'll stop digging when people respect our current QB and stop trashing him because he's not you know who and because of what happened to you know who. In other words, not this season most likely.

Imagine it, defending your team's QB because you're a fan of the team! Crazy, I know.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

But I apply it across the board. As I showed with an example that no one would have considered. Not fit it into whatever narrative I need it to. 
 

  Why not coverage. This has already shown no one can agree on any numbers. Coverage is the entire key to garbage time. What do you suggest using that is more relevant than what’s happening on the field? 

Well there are lots of other factors that can also lead to garbage time stats. Less aggressive blitzing, defensive personnel becoming more lax, playcalling becoming more lax, player substitutions because the situation is already in hand, etc, etc. 

We all remember the classic Rivera/Fox "foot off the gas" offense when we had big first half leads. To an extent, Gruden did that last night with the lead prior to the last Saints scoring drive. I would personally define it more loosely as situations in which the outcome is largely decided or the team leading has switched to more of a "don't lose" than "win" strategy. 

[KillerKat]

ummm, what? lol

[mav1234]

3 minutes ago, Toomers said:

No. Because teams play the end of the half to prevent any score. Teams up multiple scores are willing to give up a FG or a TD as long as it takes awhile. 

  I’m sorry I hurt you delicate sensibilities. 

So you're saying that it is not about the actual coverage or defense utilized but the situation in the game, eh?   Amusing.  You keep moving the goalposts, lol. 

You didn't hurt my sensibilities, I just love the anger that some fans show.  You're welcome to make up any definition for words and terms you want.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

So you're saying that it is not about the actual coverage or defense utilized but the situation in the game, eh?   Amusing.  You keep moving the goalposts, lol. 

You didn't hurt my sensibilities, I just love the anger that some fans show.  You're welcome to make up any definition for words and terms you want.

Or I could just pretend a common occurrence doesn’t even exist. That seems like fun....

[Daywa1ker]

6 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I'll stop digging when people respect our current QB and stop trashing him because he's not you know who and because of what happened to you know who. In other words, not this season most likely.

Imagine it, defending your team's QB because you're a fan of the team! Crazy, I know.

you're the only one in here talking about you know who

[mav1234]

4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Or I could just pretend a common occurrence doesn’t even exist. That seems like fun....

You're the one that is talking about drives in which the opposing defense was still bringing additional rushers on some plays and getting sacks as garbage time, though.

It isn't just about coverage, it isn't just about score, it is situational, but as you've clearly admitted, it is much more about the score than the coverage.

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I'll stop digging when people respect our current QB and stop trashing him because he's not you know who and because of what happened to you know who. In other words, not this season most likely.

Imagine it, defending your team's QB because you're a fan of the team! Crazy, I know.

Lol. Most people aren't trashing him, we are largely poking fun at Igo's attempt to boost Teddy after a legitimately awful outing. 

[KillerKat]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

2019 Season Passing Yardage Leaders

1. Jameis Winston - 5109

2. Dak Prescott - 4902

3. Jared Goff - 4638

4. Philip Rivers - 4615

5. Matt Ryan - 4466

Combined record: 36-44

Combined Playoff Appearances: 0

 

/end thread

[mav1234]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Lol. Most people aren't trashing him, we are largely poking fun at Igo's attempt to boost Teddy after a legitimately awful outing. 

Definitely was not a great outing. Heh.

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well there are lots of other factors that can also lead to garbage time stats. Less aggressive blitzing, defensive personnel becoming more lax, playcalling becoming more lax, player substitutions because the situation is already in hand, etc, etc. 

We all remember the classic Rivera/Fox "foot off the gas" offense when we had big first half leads. To an extent, Gruden did that last night with the lead prior to the last Saints scoring drive. I would personally define it more loosely as situations in which the outcome is largely decided or the team leading has switched to more of a "don't lose" than "win" strategy. 

That’s exactly what playing soft coverage is. And teams do it every week. 
 

     So combine that with me showing I apply it to everyone, what’s the problem?