Was Hurney kept on for this season solely to be the scapegoat?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

How do we know that Rhule wasn't heavily involved in those decisions? Yes, they reek of Hurney all day but Rhule had to have at least some input in these dumb decisions -- not a great sign if that is the case considering the commitment we've made to him...

We don't.

Hurney has had more than ample time to demonstrate his capabilities as a GM and has repeatedly come up wanting.

Now, I'd like to see what Rhule is capable of without Schleprock Marty's input.

[Waldo]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I was really hoping for a much better football approach from someone coming out of the Steelers' ownership group. We'll see how the Tepper era ultimately goes, but it's not off the a great start.

Haslim proved the Stealers brass were training owners to get franchises, not win with them. It's a fugging brilliant plan. Get a team in the hands of someone you know and that knows nothing about football itself but being profitable with football. Evil geniuses. 

[Toomers]

16 minutes ago, t96 said:

How do we know that Rhule wasn't heavily involved in those decisions? Yes, they reek of Hurney all day but Rhule had to have at least some input in these dumb decisions -- not a great sign if that is the case considering the commitment we've made to him...

  Ruhle was behind  Teddy and Anderson one would have to think. Teddy was Ruhle(or Brady’s) choice and Ruhle had a connection with Anderson. Those are the ones who affected comp picks. 
 

   

[t96]

11 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  Ruhle was behind  Teddy and Anderson one would have to think. Teddy was Ruhle(or Brady’s) choice and Ruhle had a connection with Anderson. Those are the ones who affected comp picks. 
 

   

Keeping Shaq and Tre also affected future comp picks.

[Logic]

10 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  Ruhle was behind  Teddy and Anderson one would have to think. Teddy was Ruhle(or Brady’s) choice and Ruhle had a connection with Anderson. Those are the ones who affected comp picks. 
 

   

I really would like to know if they thought that they were going to compete and surprise folks this year with more wins than we expected. Like, did they think that they were only a couple of pieces away from a contender? If they did, then that is truly scary. I would expect that Hurney would be there to provide some guidance, or some sort of clarity for what they had.

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, t96 said:

Keeping Shaq and Tre also affected future comp picks.

But Shaq is on Hurney, and I don’t think Tre would have gotten enough to matter much. 
 

But paying them what they got was bad enough. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

8 minutes ago, Logic said:

I would expect that Hurney would be there to provide some guidance, or some sort of clarity for what they had.

[stbugs]

God I hope he was kept on to be the scapegoat. All that means to me is that he will be gone. Don’t care why or how.

[Basbear]

Why would Tepper fire the greatest college talent evaluator??? 

Its amazing what happened to that Gettleman 2017 12-4 team herniay was gifted wrapped and now we have the 2020 panthers..... AMAZING 

I wonder why herniay drafts soo many top ten players and wonder why he hits on them....

[KillerBill]

	Total		14 Years	102	122	0		5	3
	Carolina Panthers		1998-2019	102	122	0		5	3
Carolina Panthers	NFL	Director of Player Operations	4	12	0	.250	0	0
2002	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2003	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	11	5	0	.688	3	1	Lost SB
2004	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2005	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	11	5	0	.688	2	1	Lost Conf
2006	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	8	8	0	.500	0	0
2007	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2008	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	12	4	0	.750	0	1	Lost Div
2009	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	8	8	0	.500	0	0
2010	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	2	14	0	.125	0	0
2011	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	6	10	0	.375	0	0
2012	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2018	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438
2019	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	5	11	0	.313

Horrible

[MHS831]

Here is what I think about the MH situation---how it the hell did that weasel slip back into the most important job in any front office?  He was nearly tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.  And he is back--doing the same crap he did before.  He sucks.  Our dead cap, offensive line, secondary, linebackers---what the hell?

 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, KillerBill said:

	Total		14 Years	102	122	0		5	3
	Carolina Panthers		1998-2019	102	122	0		5	3
Carolina Panthers	NFL	Director of Player Operations	4	12	0	.250	0	0
2002	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2003	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	11	5	0	.688	3	1	Lost SB
2004	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2005	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	11	5	0	.688	2	1	Lost Conf
2006	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	8	8	0	.500	0	0
2007	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2008	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	12	4	0	.750	0	1	Lost Div
2009	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	8	8	0	.500	0	0
2010	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	2	14	0	.125	0	0
2011	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	6	10	0	.375	0	0
2012	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438	0	0
2018	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	7	9	0	.438
2019	Carolina Panthers	NFL	General Manager	5	11	0	.313

Horrible

7 of those 13 years at either 7-9 or 8-8. The king of mediocre.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, MHS831 said:

Here is what I think about the MH situation---how it the hell did that weasel slip back into the most important job in any front office?  He was nearly tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.  And he is back--doing the same crap he did before.  He sucks.  Our dead cap, offensive line, secondary, linebackers---what the hell?

That explains how he got back in the door. How he's still there? Well, that's a question for, or question of, David Tepper.

[MHS831]

Hurney's rebuilt OL:  Paradis.   Miller.   G. Little.  Schofield.  and then overpays for a QB in free agency.  Now his franchise RB is injured.

 

At least he gets defense:  Whitehead?  Boston?  Burris?   They have been terrible.