Bridgewater didn’t play bad

[t96]

You're actually right, he didn't play bad. 3 giveaways is TERRIBLE

[t96]

11 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

You’d have to be an idiot to think he actually played bad.

He made 2 bad throws. Big whooooop. I see Teddy is going to get the same kind of treatment as Cam did around here. Be absolutely perfect or else

I mean he was mostly good but at the end of the day the results speak for themselves with zero touchdowns and 3 turnovers. No way to argue that that is a good game overall. I think Teddy can still be a really solid stop gap option that could maybe lead us to the playoffs next year or the year after if he's still starting and it'll just take time to get settled in this offense and build chemistry, but I don't think he should be our long term solution at the position.

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

I mean he was mostly good but at the end of the day the results speak for themselves with zero touchdowns and 3 turnovers. No way to argue that that is a good game overall. I think Teddy can still be a really solid stop gap option that could maybe lead us to the playoffs next year or the year after if he's still starting and it'll just take time to get settled in this offense and build chemistry, but I don't think he should be our long term solution at the position.

This is essentially Teddy’s 3rd year as a starter. The year most QB’s make “the leap”. Given the game time he’s missed over the years and even last season after Brees came back he’s looked solid.

Did people really expect us to win today? Certainly sounds that way. Tampa’s defense is solid and it’s no secret our OL is bad. Teddy had pressure in his face a lot this afternoon. With no pre season he’s still building chemistry with all of these guys. 

People are more mad about the Cam situation and the way this team has gone about the “rebuild” than anything else and they’re taking their frustrations out on Bridgewater. 

[GoPanthers123]

We scored 0 points in the first half and Teddy is the man responsible. 

[FuFuLamePoo]

10 minutes ago, t96 said:

I mean he was mostly good but at the end of the day the results speak for themselves with zero touchdowns and 3 turnovers. No way to argue that that is a good game overall. I think Teddy can still be a really solid stop gap option that could maybe lead us to the playoffs next year or the year after if he's still starting and it'll just take time to get settled in this offense and build chemistry, but I don't think he should be our long term solution at the position.

It's going to be exhausting trying to drive this point across week after week. Teddy is like 28, it's not like he's some unknown at this point. He's a solid intermediate thrower, but has obvious limitations to his game (arm strength.) I mean the ball just looks ugly out of his hand. He's about like a Jimmy G or Jared Goff type. And those guys recently made Super Bowls! He CAN win you games if you have the perfect team around him. But I do not trust this regime to put a perfect team around anyone. I'd rather find a Mahomes/Jackson/Watson tier guy. This is not hard.

[Jeremy Igo]

28 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Ludicrous. Bridgewater was the worst player on the field for us. 

Uh, no. He had a bad game, but others had far worse. 

[t96]

4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

This is essentially Teddy’s 3rd year as a starter. The year most QB’s make “the leap”. Given the game time he’s missed over the years and even last season after Brees came back he’s looked solid.

Did people really expect us to win today? Certainly sounds that way. Tampa’s defense is solid and it’s no secret our OL is bad. Teddy had pressure in his face a lot this afternoon. With no pre season he’s still building chemistry with all of these guys. 

People are more mad about the Cam situation and the way this team has gone about the “rebuild” than anything else and they’re taking their frustrations out on Bridgewater. 

I'm not even mad about the Cam situation, it just is what it is and I think it was time, unfortunately. And I do like Bridgewater and hope he takes this "leap" you talk about. But there are very legitimate questions about Teddy's prospects as a starting QB. Even with a big leap from his first two full seasons as a starter, that wouldn't necessarily be that great of a season. We'll see how it goes and I'm rooting for him but I just do not see Teddy being the guy 3+ years from now. Great, great bridge option if we draft a QB next year, and if he does play pretty well he'd have solid trade value for that 3rd year on his contract. If we're in a position to get Lawrence/Fields/Lance, we need to do so.

[JawnyBlaze]

4 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Uh, no. He had a bad game, but others had far worse. 

My statement was no further off the mark than the OP. Bridgewater had a BAD game. There’s no sugar coating this. 

[ncfan]

7 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Uh, no. He had a bad game, but others had far worse. 

This

I mean the LG was pulling his best Matt Kalil turnstile impression today.

Whitehead had the field vision of Trent Richardson being at the wrong place every time.  The DL, we did get a sack finally?  Ir did we not.

 

Teddy wasnt great but was one of the betyer players on the field for us still

[JawnyBlaze]

30 minutes ago, lightsout said:

First pick was bad. Second pick seemed like a miscommunication. Say what you want about Teddy, he isn't routinely, quarter to quarter throwing behind receivers. I think he thought DJ would squat that route where he was because he was soft rounding it and honestly, had he done that, it's a completion or a good pass breakup by the DB. Instead, he continues inside and the ball is gone. It's a chemistry thing that needs working out, and the same thing happened on a route last week with DJ.

Not even faulting Teddy on the fumble, as bad as the OL was it's amazing he didn't lose the ball more.

Defense HAS to play better. OL HAS to play better. Get EITHER of those things this game, we win. Simple as that.

I dunno what year you’re talking about but this year he has consistently quarter to quarter, drive to drive thrown behind or floated over the heads of receivers.  His placement is awful.  Perfect example is in the first half it was third and like six, he threw a high pass to McCaffrey and McCaffrey had to jump to catch it. Tackled immediately for about 3 yards. If he had been able to catch in stride it would have been a sure first down. That’s every other completion with Teddy, not even including the ones that are so wild that the WRs can’t catch them. 

[t96]

7 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

It's going to be exhausting trying to drive this point across week after week. Teddy is like 28, it's not like he's some unknown at this point. He's a solid intermediate thrower, but has obvious limitations to his game (arm strength.) I mean the ball just looks ugly out of his hand. He's about like a Jimmy G or Jared Goff type. And those guys recently made Super Bowls! He CAN win you games if you have the perfect team around him. But I do not trust this regime to put a perfect team around anyone. I'd rather find a Mahomes/Jackson/Watson tier guy. This is not hard.

Agree, I think Teddy could be Jimmy G or Goff caliber, but that's still not a given and we should definitely strive to get a QB better than that. Those guys made SBs and both came up short. Niners and Rams the SB with better QBs. If we have an opportunity to get a potential franchise QB on a rookie deal this next draft we have to take it.

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

I'm not even mad about the Cam situation, it just is what it is and I think it was time, unfortunately. And I do like Bridgewater and hope he takes this "leap" you talk about. But there are very legitimate questions about Teddy's prospects as a starting QB. Even with a big leap from his first two full seasons as a starter, that wouldn't necessarily be that great of a season. We'll see how it goes and I'm rooting for him but I just do not see Teddy being the guy 3+ years from now. Great, great bridge option if we draft a QB next year, and if he does play pretty well he'd have solid trade value for that 3rd year on his contract. If we're in a position to get Lawrence/Fields/Lance, we need to do so.

You really need to go back and look at how that Minnesota offense was run before knocking Teddy for his numbers.

I mean sure, obviously everyone wants an elite level QB but people are ragging on Teddy as if those grow on trees. There’s maybe 5? Elite QB’s in the NFL right now (not even sure if there’s that many)? Teddy won’t ever get to that level obviously but he’s more than capable of being a QB you can win with which isn’t exactly easy to find these days either. 

I agree if we can nab one of those three, you can’t pass it up though. Unless Teddy elevates to another level this season

[hepcat]

14 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Uh, no. He had a bad game, but others had far worse. 

Bridgewater’s bad game was the primary reason the team lost today. Take away his 3 turnovers and the Panthers probably win today.

[Fox007]

No one played bad if you ignore the bad play lol I love that I always crack up so hard when I hear this type of shite. 

I mean like bro man bro if you like like take away all the like points that the Bucs scored like bro bruh they woulda scored like no points.