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Official Panthers at Buccaneers Gameday Thread


Jeremy Igo

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Just now, JawnyBlaze said:

Bridgewater is a perfect example why completion percentage =\= accuracy. Bridgewaters passes were all over the place. Even the completions were usually a recover twisting or jumping when they shouldn’t have to to make the catch. Bridgewater was horribly inaccurate yet threw 33/41. 

I agree. You have to watch the game to determine when and how those completions were made. A QB could throw a screen or a 5 yard pass that breaks for 75 yards. Stats will only show a completion for 75 yards - not the full story. 

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7 minutes ago, Mage said:

Why do people keep saying this?
 

Ya'll do realize a first down would have ended the game no matter where they were on the field.... right?  It isn't like that onside kick put them in field goal range.

Like are ya'll being serious lol a regular kickoff wouldn't have made a difference.  Only difference is if you really cared about them scoring more points or not.

Exactly!! That decision gives me some hope that the coaching staff arent complete idiots.. thats the right call.

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2 minutes ago, Mage said:

Why do people keep saying this?
 

Ya'll do realize a first down would have ended the game no matter where they were on the field.... right?  It isn't like that onside kick put them in field goal range.

Like are ya'll being serious lol a regular kickoff wouldn't have made a difference.  Only difference is if you really cared about them scoring more points or not.

Although you are right, the issue is, with 2 timeouts left, the smarter play is to kick it deep and force them to punt it so you have better field position a when you get it back, so less distance to cover with no timeouts left.  

The other part of why it was so bad is onside kicks are only converted like what?  12% of the time?  And those are the good attempts...  Slye's kick never came off the ground and had ZERO percent chance of being recovered.  

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Just now, mav1234 said:

Game was over anyways I guess, but just seemed weird.  The entire team seems not to understand the way the game clock works.  No urgency, tons of wasted time.

I’m still not convinced Rhule and Brady don’t know the clock doesn’t stop after a first down. That has repeatedly been an issue for two straight weeks now in 2- and 4-minute drills. 

Armah literally had an easy route out of bounds to run a couple tries at the end zone and he Tre Bostoned it. 

Saw three players give up on a play today:  

- Jackson (after an admittedly excellent interception) runs out of bounds with 15 yards of space in front 

- Boston on multiple occasions just let up

- Armah can easily run out of bounds and he gives himself up in bounds 

 

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1 minute ago, emhoward said:

Exactly!! That decision gives me some hope that the coaching staff arent complete idiots.. thats the right call.

but then the offense runs out there with under two minutes remaining and we have multiple plays where our offense could have stopped the clock if the players were smart, but yet for some unknown reason they don't go out of bounds or Teddy checks down to a middle of the field pass.

It's Jekyll and Hyde

 

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So if you noticed Armah caught the ball without the clock running. That play started at 9 seconds left and ended with the same time. The real issue here is the offensive line is still garbage the defensive line still can’t get QB pressure and the entire defense lacks tackling ability. We’ll see how those young players and coaches develop but right now it looks like the defense and coaching staff are lack nfl experience. 

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Just now, Proudiddy said:

Although you are right, the issue is, with 2 timeouts left, the smarter play is to kick it deep and force them to punt it so you have better field position a when you get it back, so less distance to cover with no timeouts left.  

The other part of why it was so bad is onside kicks are only converted like what?  12% of the time?  And those are the good attempts...  Slye's kick never came off the ground and had ZERO percent chance of being recovered.  

I agree, when you kick the insides kick, the you are effectively saying that you do not trust your defense to get a three/four and out.

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Just now, Carl Spackler said:

I’m still not convinced Rhule and Brady don’t know the clock doesn’t stop after a first down. That has repeatedly been an issue for two straight weeks now in 2- and 4-minute drills. 

Armah literally had an easy route out of bounds to run a couple tries at the end zone and he Tre Bostoned it. 

Saw three players give up on a play today:  

- Jackson (after an admittedly excellent interception) runs out of bounds with 15 yards of space in front 

- Boston on multiple occasions just let up

- Armah can easily run out of bounds and he gives himself up in bounds 

 

Armah was fighting for every yard, but he should have just fallen out of bounds at least, or gone out right after the first down.

The Jackson int was mindboggling. I thought he might take it all the way at one point and he just steps out. There didn't seem to be a defender anywhere near him.   I wonder if there was another angle someone saw that would explain that.

Boston just sucks, which is unfortunate because I wanted him to be a success story coming back here.

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