What Raiders fans are saying about the Carolina Panthers

[raz]

18 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

Stop embarrassing your self as Derrick Carr has a strong arm can easily make every throw in the game. Look up his stat history  as he one of the better deep ball passes in the game.  
 

Last year due to circumstances beyond Carr control  - Antonio Brown going off the deep end, Tyrell Williams ( was never the same Wr after getting hurt in week five), and JJ  Nelson( cut in preseason because couldn’t get off the sideline)  they were going to throw the deep ball.( was going to be a big part of the offense).   Carr didn’t have any deep threats beside Te Darren Waller last year.( you have to utilize the weapons at your disposal.  
 

That isn’t the case this year Henry Ruggs( one of the NFL fastest wr in the game) B Edwards- doesn’t have Ruggs speed but still a dangerous we deep as his ability to go up and make a play in the football.  Te Darren Waller 6’6 255 4.4 legitimate speed ( look for him play some Wr)    Rico Gafford poor man Henry Ruggs ( sub 4.3 )    .   You will see how weak Derrick Carr arm is this Sunday     Bet you’re going to be eating some serious crow.

 

maybe derek will cry again if he gets a boo boo on his arm.  that shite was hilarious

[CarolinaXblue]

Glad you brought this back. Its football season boys.

[Raideraholic]

On 9/11/2020 at 4:40 PM, Khyber53 said:

On paper. Reality says your records were 2018: 4-12, 2019: 7-9. Total combined record: 11-21

Not exactly special. Actually pretty much backs up what I've been saying. Might want to throw in the whole Antonio Brown spectacle there since that was a screw-up of epic proportions that left egg on the face of both Gruden and Mayock. 

By the way, the Panthers combined win-loss for that period (2018-2019): 12-20. Our coach got fired for it. Your guys are on a hot seat whether you want to admit it or not.

 

 

On 9/11/2020 at 4:40 PM, Khyber53 said:

On paper. Reality says your records were 2018: 4-12, 2019: 7-9. Total combined record: 11-21

Not exactly special. Actually pretty much backs up what I've been saying. Might want to throw in the whole Antonio Brown spectacle there since that was a screw-up of epic proportions that left egg on the face of both Gruden and Mayock. 

By the way, the Panthers combined win-loss for that period (2018-2019): 12-20. Our coach got fired for it. Your guys are on a hot seat whether you want to admit it or not.

 

Let’s look at facts.  Do you not understand that Mike Mayock going on his second year as Raiders Gm . He has totally rebuilt the roster , and not many players are left from team four years ago.( total rebuild job and why their record is meaniless).  Let’s look at his drafts. 2019 draft-one of the best in the NFL    1.starting De C Ferrell 1 starting Rb Josh Jacobs- should won ORoy  1. Starting Ss J Abrams ( played one game Hurt in week one) 2. Starting cb Trayvon Mullen 4. De Max“ the condor”  Crosby- starting De and was in running for DRoy. 4. Cb Isaiah Johnson-first Cb up if starter goes down. 4. Te Foster Moreau- Gruden play a lot two Te formations . Can block and is good receiver . Giving the Raiders one of the better Tight end combinations. .  5. Wr Hunter Renfrow - Starting slot receiver .   They don’t  call him third down and Renfrow without a reason

Un-drafted Fa - Starting Fb - Alec Ingold - one of the better Fb. Can do it all.  Will see receiving numbers , and carriers increase.  OC Andre James - backup to Rodney Hudson . (Will eventually be his replacement) .cb  K Nixon - whole cb group is made up of second year and rookies . 
 2020 Draft 1. Starting Wr - Henry Ruggs much  more than just speed threat 1. Starting Cb -D Arnette - has been very impressive in camp. 3. Lynn Bowden- traded more to story than his ability . 3. starting Wr B Edwards - been the talk of Raider camp from day one 4. Tanner Muse - has struggled making switch from safety to lb.( not unexpected with this crazy offseason.  Still 4.4 speed is pretty impressive For a lb .Og John Simpson - probably replaces Richie Incognito next year.  4.cb Amik Robertson - should replace L Joyner as the nickel cb sometime this year.( going to be a good one-).
 

The NFL is all about drafting, and the Raiders have a good one in Mike Mayock.  The roster is loaded with emerging young talent, and some serious depth everywhere on the roster.  One of the best Raider rosters since 2002 team.   Raiders are so much faster on both sides of the ball from last year.( not by accident).

Couple hours you will see whatvI’m so exciting about.

 

 

[raz]

1 hour ago, Raideraholic said:

 

Let’s look at facts.  Do you not understand that Mike Mayock going on his second year as Raiders Gm . He has totally rebuilt the roster , and not many players are left from team four years ago.( total rebuild job and why their record is meaniless).  Let’s look at his drafts. 2019 draft-one of the best in the NFL    1.starting De C Ferrell 1 starting Rb Josh Jacobs- should won ORoy  1. Starting Ss J Abrams ( played one game Hurt in week one) 2. Starting cb Trayvon Mullen 4. De Max“ the condor”  Crosby- starting De and was in running for DRoy. 4. Cb Isaiah Johnson-first Cb up if starter goes down. 4. Te Foster Moreau- Gruden play a lot two Te formations . Can block and is good receiver . Giving the Raiders one of the better Tight end combinations. .  5. Wr Hunter Renfrow - Starting slot receiver .   They don’t  call him third down and Renfrow without a reason

Un-drafted Fa - Starting Fb - Alec Ingold - one of the better Fb. Can do it all.  Will see receiving numbers , and carriers increase.  OC Andre James - backup to Rodney Hudson . (Will eventually be his replacement) .cb  K Nixon - whole cb group is made up of second year and rookies . 
 2020 Draft 1. Starting Wr - Henry Ruggs much  more than just speed threat 1. Starting Cb -D Arnette - has been very impressive in camp. 3. Lynn Bowden- traded more to story than his ability . 3. starting Wr B Edwards - been the talk of Raider camp from day one 4. Tanner Muse - has struggled making switch from safety to lb.( not unexpected with this crazy offseason.  Still 4.4 speed is pretty impressive For a lb .Og John Simpson - probably replaces Richie Incognito next year.  4.cb Amik Robertson - should replace L Joyner as the nickel cb sometime this year.( going to be a good one-).
 

The NFL is all about drafting, and the Raiders have a good one in Mike Mayock.  The roster is loaded with emerging young talent, and some serious depth everywhere on the roster.  One of the best Raider rosters since 2002 team.   Raiders are so much faster on both sides of the ball from last year.( not by accident).

Couple hours you will see whatvI’m so exciting about.

 

 

all trash talking aside i hope you're right about your team.   we had gruden in our division forever.  that dude could f up a wet dream so i doubt you'll ever really be happy with him at the helm.   i have been surprised he's not doing everything in his power to be on tv all the time.  maybe that's a sign of progress for y'all.

[raz]

who's gonna make a game day thread.  where's morgan's game day menu post?   i'm like the first one up and i can't do it.  i did it once on another message board and we lost

[Khyber53]

2 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

 

Let’s look at facts.  Do you not understand that Mike Mayock going on his second year as Raiders Gm . He has totally rebuilt the roster , and not many players are left from team four years ago.( total rebuild job and why their record is meaniless).  Let’s look at his drafts. 2019 draft-one of the best in the NFL    1.starting De C Ferrell 1 starting Rb Josh Jacobs- should won ORoy  1. Starting Ss J Abrams ( played one game Hurt in week one) 2. Starting cb Trayvon Mullen 4. De Max“ the condor”  Crosby- starting De and was in running for DRoy. 4. Cb Isaiah Johnson-first Cb up if starter goes down. 4. Te Foster Moreau- Gruden play a lot two Te formations . Can block and is good receiver . Giving the Raiders one of the better Tight end combinations. .  5. Wr Hunter Renfrow - Starting slot receiver .   They don’t  call him third down and Renfrow without a reason

Un-drafted Fa - Starting Fb - Alec Ingold - one of the better Fb. Can do it all.  Will see receiving numbers , and carriers increase.  OC Andre James - backup to Rodney Hudson . (Will eventually be his replacement) .cb  K Nixon - whole cb group is made up of second year and rookies . 
 2020 Draft 1. Starting Wr - Henry Ruggs much  more than just speed threat 1. Starting Cb -D Arnette - has been very impressive in camp. 3. Lynn Bowden- traded more to story than his ability . 3. starting Wr B Edwards - been the talk of Raider camp from day one 4. Tanner Muse - has struggled making switch from safety to lb.( not unexpected with this crazy offseason.  Still 4.4 speed is pretty impressive For a lb .Og John Simpson - probably replaces Richie Incognito next year.  4.cb Amik Robertson - should replace L Joyner as the nickel cb sometime this year.( going to be a good one-).
 

The NFL is all about drafting, and the Raiders have a good one in Mike Mayock.  The roster is loaded with emerging young talent, and some serious depth everywhere on the roster.  One of the best Raider rosters since 2002 team.   Raiders are so much faster on both sides of the ball from last year.( not by accident).

Couple hours you will see whatvI’m so exciting about.

 

 

You give a lot of names. The Cleveland Browns draft a lot of names, trade for a lot of names. Neither team has been relevant for two decades.

Good luck to you and yours. The game will settle it, I guess. 

 

[1of10Charnatives]

4 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

 

Let’s look at facts.  Do you not understand that Mike Mayock going on his second year as Raiders Gm . He has totally rebuilt the roster , and not many players are left from team four years ago.( total rebuild job and why their record is meaniless).  Let’s look at his drafts. 2019 draft-one of the best in the NFL    

Yeah I’m gonna just stop you here. You say let’s look at the facts then proceed to base your argument not on objective facts but subjective opinions such as “should have won O ROY” and “can block and is a good receiver.” These things are subjective opinions, not objective facts. Nowhere do you present hard fact based arguments such as citing immediate improvement in record or performance metrics to back your assertions.

When a person takes this approach there are 3 possibilities:

1. They do not understand clearly the difference between facts and opinions.

2. They are engaging in premeditated intellectual dishonesty.

3. They are making the statement in order to make a weak subjective argument seem stronger than it actually is.

I don’t know which of the three is true in your case but the post does not make a meaningfully strong fact based argument in support of Mayock as a GM. Most non casual observers of football understand that any evaluation of a draft class less than 3 years old is premature at best. Mayock may indeed prove to be a skilled GM but asserting that he has already proven so based on his first 2 draft classes is premature and engaging in wearing rose colored homer glasses.

The more fair minded statement would be to say you like what he’s done so far and are excited about the franchises’s future under his leadership, but claiming you’ve put forth a fact based argument just isn’t the case here.

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

On 9/11/2020 at 1:43 PM, Raideraholic said:

Have you seen Mayock two drafts , as he has done extremely well drafting.  Do your homework next time, as you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Have the Raiders won any championships and SB's with Mayock's drafts. NO!. You seem to think Raiders are or will be contenders which isn't going to happen with Gruden there. That is the true reality you fail to realize.

[onmyown]

On 9/10/2020 at 5:39 AM, Jeremy Igo said:

P.S. - I'd rather have Teddy than Derek Carr, and it isn't close. 

Nah bro.

[Fright]

Solid bump. Raider fans nailed us.