matchup Las Vegas Raiders at Carolina Panthers - What do you know?

[Raideraholic]

 

 

[Raideraholic]

9 minutes ago, RumHam said:

we win the game. keep drives alive, keep the defense all the field, get a few turnovers but also get burnt. 34-30

Almost impossible to get that many points . j Gruden loves to run the ball- a lot of long time consuming drives that limit other teams time of possession.

[jfra78]

1 minute ago, Raideraholic said:

Almost impossible to get that many points . j Gruden loves to run the ball- a lot of long time consuming drives that limit other teams time of possession.

So we will see a lot of "run-run-pass-punt" from the Raiders.  We had a coach like that too

[CRA]

9 hours ago, Raideraholic said:

Well you’re going to find out in a hurry .  J Gruden loves to run the football with Josh Jacobs and Fb Alec Ingold, and what might be the best offense line in football.  Gruden likes to play with two Te formations, and don’t be surprise he plays with three occasionally.

T Whitehead is very good fun defender , and you can bet Raiders will try to get their backs matched up on him as much as possible.

Know doubt.  We know Gruden well around these parts.   We know in large part exactly what Oakland is going to do on Sunday.  

We just have absolutely no clue about our own team.  Everything is brand new.  We got some returning players but scheme/coach/etc is all different.

As far as defending the run goes, we will have beef up front at DT we didn't have last year in terms of defending the run.  Our best DT was hurt last year and we got our first rounder.   So I imagine we will be better given the talent this year and the switch back to a 4-3. 

 

[Jeremy Igo]

Jon Gruden took Tony Dungy's Bucs to the Superbowl then dragged them to the cellar literally in record time. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

3 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Jon Gruden took Tony Dungy's Bucs to the Superbowl then dragged them to the cellar literally in record time. 

In time Gruden will drag Raiders to the to the cellar as well. He is way to much of a hot head not to.

[Raideraholic]

13 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

So we will see a lot of "run-run-pass-punt" from the Raiders.  We had a coach like that too

Only thing that can stop this offense is J Gruden.   He’s too conservative , and he needs to open up the offense .  With that said the Raiders are going to move the ball versus the Panthers.   Raiders were 14 in total yards last year , but were 24 in points. ( that has to improve)   This offense has way more speed And weapons than last year version.     Raiders can’t settle for field goals, as they have to get TDS. This is the NFL every team has been up front, the Raiders have one of the biggest offense lines in the game.

[CRA]

24 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

Almost impossible to get that many points . j Gruden loves to run the ball- a lot of long time consuming drives that limit other teams time of possession.

Yeah, that has been the Carolina Panther narrative for like the last 2 decades.   I mean it works, until it doesn't work. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

2 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

Only thing that can stop this offense is J Gruden.   He’s too conservative , and he needs to open up the offense .  With that said the Raiders are going to move the ball versus the Panthers.   Raiders were 14 in total yards last year , but were 24 in points. ( that has to improve)   This offense has way more speed And weapons than last year version.     Raiders can’t settle for field goals, as they have to get TDS. This is the NFL every team has been up front, the Raiders have one of the biggest offense lines in the game.

[Raideraholic]

7 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Jon Gruden took Tony Dungy's Bucs to the Superbowl then dragged them to the cellar literally in record time. 

Difference he has M Mayock who has been  excellent job in the draft.   Gruden terrible developing young QBs - he had a Qb already on the roster when he can back.    The biggest improvement Gruden has made is he used to rely on old veterans , over young players.  That isn’t the case now as you look at the roster it’s young kids, over the older veterans.  Still has to get more aggressive, as he can be too conservative for my liking,

[LinvilleGorge]

48 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

Difference he has M Mayock who has been  excellent job in the draft.   Gruden terrible developing young QBs - he had a Qb already on the roster when he can back.    The biggest improvement Gruden has made is he used to rely on old veterans , over young players.  That isn’t the case now as you look at the roster it’s young kids, over the older veterans.  Still has to get more aggressive, as he can be too conservative for my liking,

Ironic how both Gruden and Brian Billick both had QB guru reputations as coaches and both (at least so far) struggled mightily to find and develop QBs as head coaches.

[mrcompletely11]

Spread is at 3.5 now.  Opened 1.5.

 

I wonder how no crowds factor into the spread?

[bababoey]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Spread is at 3.5 now.  Opened 1.5.

 

I wonder how no crowds factor into the spread?

I am not a sports betting person but having had a roommate as one for about 3 years I can tell you the spread goes where the money goes.  If a lot of people start betting on the Panthers the spead will shift towards the Panthers favor.  If the money goes to people betting on the Raiders, which it has, the spread goes to the Raiders favor.  Home team use to get 3 points as a general rule then you adjust the line to get the most people betting either side.  Covid 19 really has no effect on that but west coast teams going east usually had a penalty.  Anywhere from 1 to 3 points 

[Mister]

teddys projections according to my algorithm 250 yards passing 2 touchdowns . mccaffrey 2 rushing tds 1 receiving td. 103 yards on the ground 50 receiving yards . curtis samuel 40 yards and a touch down , dj moore 96 yards , 0 tds