Will Grier admits he sucked last year

[MHS831]

10 minutes ago, bababoey said:

It's hard to compare guys that played in the 70's and 80's to QB's that play today.  So many rule changes to help the passing game and almost all offenses feature some part of the west coast offense that make completions much easier now than it was then.

I agree---Bradshaw is in the hall and had only 2 more TDs than Interceptions, but in the 70s and 80s, I am willing to wager that below 50%--below 40% completion rates would have resulted in benching players today.  But they were much more vertical then---

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

He was put in a terrible situation last year, the coaching staff knew he wasn't ready but put him out there anyway. 

That is the point I was making---Bradshaw and Elway were thrown into the fire and both had terrible rookie seasons.  Grier got few reps all season and it showed---he may never be more than a backup, but we should not judge him based on 2 games last year---the team had mailed it in.  I hope he develops.

[GoPanthers123]

Almost all his completions were point blank to CMac.  The OL was so poo last year though, esp second half of the season.  

As for QB situation I think Cam is the best panther, our GOAT, and Kyle Allen should have been the next in line with proper coaching and OL that is.

[raz]

but see it was really my daddy's fault.  tell em daddy

[Gesualdo]

Regardless of how hard he practices in the backyard with his dad, did anyone really see anything promising in this guy last year? If so, what was it?

A lot of guys play football in the backyard with their dad. We don't all get a solid NFL career out of it.

[Jeremy Igo]

2 minutes ago, Gesualdo said:

Regardless of how hard he practices in the backyard with his dad, did anyone really see anything promising in this guy last year? If so, what was it?

A lot of guys play football in the backyard with their dad. We don't all get a solid NFL career out of it.

I didn't see anything promising out of any Panthers QB last year. 

[Gesualdo]

4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

He did--hard to watch--so did John Elway, the player I described above. 

Terry Bradshaw completed 38.1% of his passes as a rookie and threw 6 TDs vs. 24 Ints.  and had a 30.4 QB rating.  He owns a gold jacket. 

No one says there's zero chance he becomes good. As you said, we're playing the odds. The odds say that a third-rounder who sucks badly in his first year and shows no promise - which no one ever said about Elway - will probably be poo forever, and should be regarded as such until he shows something.

[Gesualdo]

1 minute ago, Jeremy Igo said:

I didn't see anything promising out of any Panthers QB last year. 

Me neither. I thought for a minute Allen was showing he's a cool customer who doesn't rattle easily, despite a lack of talent - good backup, maybe - but then he rattled easily.

I'm all for giving Dishwater a go.

[onmyown]

4 hours ago, SOJA said:

I mean he did suck but that doesn't mean he's a lost cause or we should give up on him 

Dunno...I mean an XFL/Colts practice squad player just waltzed in and beat him out of number 2 spot. We going into the season with 3/4 QBs every year? Seems silly.

But Hurney’s hometown hero’s will surely prevail.

[Carl Spackler]

9 hours ago, MHS831 said:

That is the point I was making---Bradshaw and Elway were thrown into the fire and both had terrible rookie seasons.  Grier got few reps all season and it showed---he may never be more than a backup, but we should not judge him based on 2 games last year---the team had mailed it in.  I hope he develops.

Olsen said the same thing.