Jordan voice of reason during NBA owners meeting

[bLACKpANTHER]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29754265/michael-jordan-urges-owners-meeting-listening-better-talkin

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The owners held a virtual meeting Thursday morning, and two participants confirmed that Jordan -- who serves as the NBA Labor Relations Committee chairman -- was a voice of reason, urging the other owners to allow the players to express their frustrations and concerns before offering any of their own solutions.

"Right now, listening is better than talking," Jordan told the group, according to sources.

Jordan is being a key middle man between the players and owners and is helping a lot.. I hope the owners listen and start to use their massive clout ($$$) to put their weight on elected officials to make this movement get  some sort of results, ie. legislation passed.. nothing is going to change until the people in positions of power ($$$) decide to make it happen.. AND people in positions of power have no interest in changing the way things are.

The way things are helped make them millionaires/billionaires. The way things are is in their best interest. The only way to make them move is when the way things are becomes bad for business. And right now, The way things are is stopping their product from coming together. They spent a sh*t-ton of money to create the bubble so they could salvage the season. [It's funny that the Covid-19 pandemic couldn't stop the NBA season, but racism/police brutality can]

If all these sports players keep this up, this could really REALLY help.

I know they have decided to start the playoffs back up (Saturday, I think), but they will shut it down again if nothing happens. There will be no 2021 season if we are still in the same place in 2-4 months. I'm can only hope the owners said "Look, we can't do anything overnight - BUT we hear you and we are going to try and make something happen. In the meantime, let's finish up this season so you all can get out of the bubble, go home to your fam and continue to fight/rally in your own cities, in your own ways."

I hope that is the case. The players wouldn't just go back to work if they didn't receive and concessions from the owners in those meetings, Right?

[bLACKpANTHER]

+1 gold star.. keep it going..

[t96]

great but he needs to start working as owner to build a team that can actually win games

[SizzleBuzz]

On 8/28/2020 at 2:43 PM, bLACKpANTHER said:

I hope the owners...use their massive clout ($$$) to put their weight on elected officials to make this movement get  some sort of results, ie. legislation passed..

What sort of "legislation" do you suggest should be forthcoming?

[bLACKpANTHER]

11 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

What sort of "legislation" do you suggest should be forthcoming?

Procuring a completely new and independent body that investigates and prosecutes police officers who are accused of mishaps, conspiracy, lying, shootings, murders. The internal investigations oddly rarely ever finds anything wrong with the way police conduct themselves and usually comes to aide and cover up. That would be a start...

Police are given way too many tasks and have to respond to things they are not trained for. Legislation that creates new institutions that can appropriately, deescalate a situation and actually help the community. 

No more private prisons. No more prison time for non-violent drug offenses. There are a Sh*t-ton of things that can be done to improve our country. We haven't hit peak "star-spangled-awesome" just yet..

[SizzleBuzz]

23 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

Procuring a completely new and independent body that investigates and prosecutes police officers who are accused of mishaps, conspiracy, lying, shootings, murders. The internal investigations oddly rarely ever finds anything wrong with the way police conduct themselves and usually comes to aide and cover up. That would be a start...

Police are given way too many tasks and have to respond to things they are not trained for. Legislation that creates new institutions that can appropriately, deescalate a situation and actually help the community. 

No more private prisons. No more prison time for non-violent drug offenses. There are a Sh*t-ton of things that can be done to improve our country. We haven't hit peak "star-spangled-awesome" just yet..

Give you credit for having an answer.

I'm sure the NBA owners will jump right on that. 

Question on the subject, do you know how many women have died in 2020 during an interaction with the police that went bad?

[bLACKpANTHER]

4 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Give you credit for having an answer.

I'm sure the NBA owners will jump right on that. 

Question on the subject, do you know how many women have died in 2020 during an interaction with the police that went bad?

I sense the sarcasm.. Yeah, I don't believe anything will truly happen but I painted a rosy picture of a best case scenario...

btw - 694 males & 27 females died at the hands of police in 2020

[SizzleBuzz]

58 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

I sense the sarcasm.. Yeah, I don't believe anything will truly happen but I painted a rosy picture of a best case scenario...

btw - 694 males & 27 females died at the hands of police in 2020

I hear ya, good onya for actually having thought about some specific changes that can possibly be measured --- you are in the distinct minority. 

Not sure if you're aware but the Washington Post maintains a database on the subject which can be downloaded in an excel spreadsheet. 

I did so at the end of August and at the time the numbers were 499 total of which 20 were women.  [NOTE: The total number of entries in their spreadsheet was higher but many entries were missing key data like the name of the person (smh), sex, race, etc...entries that were incomplete were eliminated.]

Any idea about the race breakdown on the 20 women who ended up dead?

Also, why do you think men are dying at a rate 24X that of the women?