Matt Rhule on DJ Moore

[Carl Spackler]

Dude had 1175 yards after 2 games of Cam Newton and 12 games of Kyle Allen but he’s not a No. 1. This place 

[Snake]

22 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Averaged 10 sacks per season, forced 30 fumbles, had 6 INTs as a defensive lineman... lazy af. LOL

And did it all in trash time and two games a year. Yes lazy AF for his talent level.  So stfu and go drink a tofu latte Karen. 

[electro's horse]

the defense during the fox era was based around peppers drawing a double team other people making plays. peppers realized this

jenkins and co hated this because they felt like fox was protecting him and there was a double standard. peppers didnt give a poo because he was getting double teamed so what were they complaining about.

it was a huge fuging issue and eventually tore the defense apart. everyone knew how good peppers was and what he could do if he wanted. peppers thought he was doing what he was supposed to do. it was a multi level failure and a huge what if. the usual thing we can all agree on is give steve smith peppers' physical talent; how many sacks a year does that player get?

also peppers straight up took a year off lmao

 

[GoobyPls]

Wtf is op talking about? Lol

[kungfoodude]

13 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

the defense during the fox era was based around peppers drawing a double team other people making plays. peppers realized this

jenkins and co hated this because they felt like fox was protecting him and there was a double standard. peppers didnt give a poo because he was getting double teamed so what were they complaining about.

it was a huge fuging issue and eventually tore the defense apart. everyone knew how good peppers was and what he could do if he wanted. peppers thought he was doing what he was supposed to do. it was a multi level failure and a huge what if. the usual thing we can all agree on is give steve smith peppers' physical talent; how many sacks a year does that player get?

also peppers straight up took a year off lmao

 

He wanted to leave and they made him the highest paid hostage in the NFL. It was completely insane and shows how disconnected they were from the reality of him wanting to just simply leave the organization. 

[electro's horse]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

He wanted to leave and they made him the highest paid hostage in the NFL. It was completely insane and shows how disconnected they were from the reality of him wanting to just simply leave the organization. 

yeah hurney wasn't able to accept reality for a couple years there.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 hours ago, Snake said:

And did it all in trash time and two games a year. Yes lazy AF for his talent level.  So stfu and go drink a tofu latte Karen. 

The irony of someone trashing a HOF player calling someone else a Karen...

 

[raleigh-panther]

9 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

Wtf is op talking about? Lol

??  The quote from the coach is there as well as link to the Riot Report full article 

[raleigh-panther]

9 hours ago, electro's horse said:

the defense during the fox era was based around peppers drawing a double team other people making plays. peppers realized this

jenkins and co hated this because they felt like fox was protecting him and there was a double standard. peppers didnt give a poo because he was getting double teamed so what were they complaining about.

it was a huge fuging issue and eventually tore the defense apart. everyone knew how good peppers was and what he could do if he wanted. peppers thought he was doing what he was supposed to do. it was a multi level failure and a huge what if. the usual thing we can all agree on is give steve smith peppers' physical talent; how many sacks a year does that player get?

also peppers straight up took a year off lmao

 

I remember this well

it also seemed like most of his sacks came against two or three teams In his first run here 

I also remember an interview with the late great Deacon Jones calling out Julius for taking plays off  back in the mid 2000s basically saying for his ability julius’ numbers were too low

Julius was a great player nonetheless and teams had to scheme for him every game whether it was full effort all the time or not.  Frankly with these players we never know their true injury status either 
 

 

[electro's horse]

15 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

 

it also seemed like most of his sacks came against two or three teams In his first run here 

 

 

Peppers after 2005 was a different player. 2004 peppers was the best defender ive ever seen. 

Peppers going against Kenyatta Walker was an extinction level event. Gruden should have just benched him against Carolina. 

[raleigh-panther]

21 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Peppers after 2005 was a different player. 2004 peppers was the best defender ive ever seen. 

Peppers going against Kenyatta Walker was an extinction level event. Gruden should have just benched him against Carolina. 

Exactly right.  Julius really grew up and we don’t know what went on here when he was a young man. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, raleigh-panther said:

Exactly right.  Julius really grew up and we don’t know what went on here when he was a young man. 

I think Pep's rookie season was his most impressive, tbh. He was an absolute beast at a time when the defense was becoming great, but not all the pieces were there yet. He was the main reason our defense in 2002 was as disruptive as it was. Hell, take away a Shayne Graham missed chip-shot and a Quincy Carter BS touchdown and we go from 1-15 to 9-7.

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

He was the main reason our defense in 2002 was as disruptive as it was. 

False. Jenkins.

Plus peppers only played 12 games in 2002.

[Moo Daeng]

I think Rucker, Jenkins, Buckner, Morgan, Fields, Minter, and Grant also had a little something to do with our defense in 2002. The front 7 was pretty stacked along with the safeties..