Teddy B saying all the right things

[NAS]

4 hours ago, jfra78 said:

I believe they are Game Managers, because they aren't physically gifted QBs.  Which is why neither of them were drafted to be starters.  They make few mistakes and get the ball to open recievers fast.  There is nothing wrong with being a game manager, and elite ones can win championships.

Game managers, seriously?  A game manager doesn't win multiple superbowls and MVPs.  A game manager isn't the best player on the team which both were at multiple times during their careeer.  Game managers aren't difference makers, they "manage the game" and let others make plays. 

[kungfoodude]

7 hours ago, NAS said:

Game managers, seriously?  A game manager doesn't win multiple superbowls and MVPs.  A game manager isn't the best player on the team which both were at multiple times during their careeer.  Game managers aren't difference makers, they "manage the game" and let others make plays. 

That is my definition. They will rarely singlehandedly win you a game. They aren't going to have gaudy 2nd half or 4th quarter or Game Winning drive stats. They are the product of the team built around them and can excel at times. Anyone who is a "game managing" QB in my book would never be considered a franchise player or QB. They are just a cog in the machine, although an important one.

You want them to run the offense and not fug up.

[ForJimmy]

12 hours ago, Tbe said:

My biggest memory of Teddy is watching him get destroyed by Seattle years ago. I think it was in the playoffs. 
 

Anyway, the guy looked completely lost and without the physical tools to compete.

Id love for him to be amazing, but I just don’t see it. 
 

My hopes are up for a top 5 pick this year.

That Seattle defense did that to many teams and players. All the way to their Supper Bowl massacre of the Broncos. Not really a fair game to judge a young QB on...

[jfra78]

36 minutes ago, NAS said:

Game managers, seriously?  A game manager doesn't win multiple superbowls and MVPs.  A game manager isn't the best player on the team which both were at multiple times during their careeer.  Game managers aren't difference makers, they "manage the game" and let others make plays. 

Do they not manage the game?

[Moo Daeng]

2 hours ago, bababoey said:

You mean the playoff game in 2015 when it was like 0 deg F and Teddy drove the Vikings down to like the 10 yard line with like 10 seconds left in the game and the kicker missed a 20 something yard field goal.   He had 146 yards passing and Wilson had 142 because it was 0 degrees.  All that and teddy still found a way for them to win the game and the kicker blew it.

By bad it wasn't 0 degrees the game log says it was -6 degrees.  So yeah that is the only game you should judge any quarterback by.

Oops. 

[4Corners]

Talk is cheap, Teddy. 7-9 ain’t gonna cut it in this town. You aren’t half the player Cam is. 

[Pimpdaddy]

...yea but can he rock some haberdashery...

[Jeremy Igo]

Being a game manager is a good thing. Drew Brees is nothing more than a highly efficient game manager. He is also a day 1 HoFer. 

[top dawg]

15 hours ago, jfra78 said:

High end game managers are Drew Brees and Tom Brady.  If he is ever that good, you can't let him go. The most frustrating part of both of those guys are their ability to find wide open guys fast, neither of them really do anything spectacular skill wise.

Brees, Brady & Manning's skill was largely between their ears. Panthers fans, including right here on the Huddle can poo poo that, but having a straight mastery of your offense, and read defenses within a couple of seconds is likely greater than anything else in a QB's arsenal. 

Now, of course the other part of that is adequate protection, and having skill positions that are highly proficient, simply smart---yes, they have to have something going on upstairs too--and have skills enough to flash continually, and we may have that or players that have the ability to develop into that. So, getting back to protection, that may be the main thing. Is it adequate? I don't believe we'll suck, but there are questions. That being said, smart minds on the offensive side of the ball, including coaches, can scheme around weaknesses. 

Anyway, we'll see what we have at some point. As for Bridgewater, he's a different cat, and as different from Cam as night and day in many respects, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. We may not see him juke a DE and take off for 40 yards, drag the pile, or chuck the rock down the field 50 yards for a completion, but we probably won't see him consistently sail balls over receivers' outstretched arms either. 

In theory, we have a lot going for us. What's coming from the sidelines (and the booth) should fuel a marked difference that I think fans will learn to appreciate (I hope).

[Khyber53]

Teddy was drafted by Minnesota to be a quarterback who could lead them to a championship. He developed well and while he did look bad in his first playoff game vs Seattle, his team lost 10-9 in what was the coldest NFL game ever played. No one looked good in that game.

A horrific (players around him throwing up horrific) injury took him out of play for 19 months and he really didn't make it back into the Minnesota line-up as they had pretty much decided to move on rather than risk his return. Perhaps the memory of watching the injury take place scared off the coaching staff, even after Teddy had healed by all accounts.

He moved on to the Jets and was then traded to the Saints as a back-up to Drew Brees. That shows some level of confidence in him by a competitive team. In his first season he was called upon to take a knee a couple of times and then basically ride out the last game of the season versus the Panthers while the starters rested. Not too much to go on there, but he became used to the system the Saints employed and had the opportunity to learn behind a sure lock first ballot Hall of Famer in Drew Brees. He also got to watch and dissect every team defense in the NFC South through that time, with coaching on how to beat them from Brees, Sean Payton and our very own, newly hired Panthers offensive coordinator Joe Brady. His undefeated streak coming in to spell the injured Brees last season (against stiff competition) pretty much shows evidence to his growth and capabilities.

If anyone is going to be able to come in and work the QB position in Carolina this year, Teddy Bridgewater is the guy. He's got the pedigree, he's got the experience, he has familiarity with the system AND the divisional opponents (including an inside look at the division leading Saints). The guy seems loved by both teammates and coaches alike and barring that injury years ago, there doesn't seem to be a solid knock against him.

Except that he isn't Cam Newton. And for some Panthers fans, that's just insurmountable. 

[Moo Daeng]

56 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Talk is cheap, Teddy. 7-9 ain’t gonna cut it in this town. You aren’t half the player Cam is. 

Yet you are all talk and nothing else. Funny.

[Waldo]

 

 

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					44	34	22-12-0	698	1070	65.2	7652	38	3.6	25	2.3	365	87	7.2	6.8	11.0	173.9	88.3		97	653	6.00	5.68	8.3	5	6	28
3 yrs		MIN			30	28	17-11-0	551	851	64.7	6150	28	3.3	22	2.6	290	87	7.2	6.7	11.2	205.0	86.3		83	556	5.99	5.53	8.9	4	4	22
2 yrs		NOR			14	6	5-1-0	147	219	67.1	1502	10	4.6	3	1.4	75	45	6.9	7.2	10.2	107.3	96.1		14	97	6.03	6.31	6.0	1	2	6
2014	22	MIN	QB	5	13	12	6-6-0	259	402	64.4	2919	14	3.5	12	3.0	137	87	7.3	6.6	11.3	224.5	85.2	54.4	39	249	6.05	5.46	8.8	3	3	9
2015*	23	MIN	QB	5	16	16	11-5-0	292	447	65.3	3231	14	3.1	9	2.0	153	52	7.2	6.9	11.1	201.9	88.7	57.5	44	307	5.96	5.70	9.0	1	1	13
2017	25	MIN		5	1	0		0	2	0.0	0	0	0.0	1	50.0		0	0.0	-22.5		0.0	0.0	0.0	0	0	0.00	-22.50	0.0			0
2018	26	NOR		5	5	1	0-1-0	14	23	60.9	118	1	4.3	1	4.3	8	18	5.1	4.0	8.4	23.6	70.6	39.8	2	8	4.40	3.40	8.0			1
2019	27	NOR	qb	5	9	5	5-0-0	133	196	67.9	1384	9	4.6	2	1.0	67	45	7.1	7.5	10.4	153.8	99.1		12	89	6.23	6.66	5.8	1	2	5

Being on a bad team isn't going to help Ted out this year. Take last years numbers and skew them down. He averaged 2.4 sacks a game last year behind the Saints Oline, go ahead and at least double that here. Solid completion percentage on pedestrian numbers. We got ourselves a journeyman and that is fine. He isn't terrible and he isn't very good, he was a great backup but that 's not his role anymore. He should help us transition and set up Brady's offense. If they can put a really good team around him, he is the kind of QB that won't lose games but I'm not expecting him to win too many on his back either. That's OK. We can use that. I will not pretend that he is great however, just like I won't pretend he is awful. 

I do fear getting stuck in another stretch of mediocrity like when we had Jake but I guess I'll have to hope the coaching staff is hungrier than the mediocrity which was a Fox/Hurney combo. 

 

[4Corners]

27 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Yet you are all talk and nothing else. Funny.

I don’t talk poo over the internet 

[WarHeel]

8 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

I don’t talk poo over the internet