72 players in the NFL test positive for Covid 19

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

Everyone. They all have a choice. They can risk themselves (for the large majority it’s a very minimal risk) or choose not to. If the season doesn’t go on at all that choice is made for them. Where’s the issue with giving them the choice and allow those who choose to be involved and do their jobs to do so? 

if you contract COVID, the risk is very small for some.  very large for others...

and the risk is likely much greater for all the folks that make it all happen vs the athletes.  It is kinda like the school scenario.  Kids will be fine (they would be the athletes in the comparison).  Will the teachers, cafeterias workers, grandparents raising kids, etc? 

I mean, Cam Newton has a clear cut choice.  The grounds crew dude,  the dude doing the lights, the dude setting up the booths,  security, and on and on and on....I mean they got a choice too I guess.  Get replaced and lose and job....without the security that highly paid athletes have. 

We botched addressing the virus.  That much can't be debated.  At some point we have to quit doubling down on botching it.   

I want to watch football just as much as anyone on this board. 

[onmyown]

4 hours ago, Shotgun said:

Quit doing so much damn testing! Its the only way to decrease cases.

the cure for cancer revealed 

[Carl Spackler]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

NASCAR works.  Golf would work.  That's about it. 

Don't see how football or basketball can work. 

Golf has worked for weeks now. They’ve been playing for a month. 

[t96]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

The grounds crew dude,  the dude doing the lights, the dude setting up the booths,  security, and on and on and on....I mean they got a choice too I guess.  Get replaced and lose and job....without the security that highly paid athletes have. 

If the season doesn’t happen none of these people have jobs. That’s somehow better?

[Captroop]

33 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

You have one of those charts for the death rate?

Do you think mortality is the only thing that matters? Not the people who will suffer permanent lung or heart damage but not die? Or the people who will die of non-COVID related reasons because the hospitals are overburdened? Or the economic impacts of all these new positive cases?

 

But, I mean, yeah. There is a chart. It's starting to trend back up after a steady period of decline. Just like the new cases graph. Not sure if that's helping your case, either.

[Wolfcop]

34 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Do you think mortality is the only thing that matters? Not the people who will suffer permanent lung or heart damage but not die? Or the people who will die of non-COVID related reasons because the hospitals are overburdened? Or the economic impacts of all these new positive cases?

 

But, I mean, yeah. There is a chart. It's starting to trend back up after a steady period of decline. Just like the new cases graph. Not sure if that's helping your case, either.

Its all good man. We can all hope this crap goes away sooner than later. 

[imminent rogaine]

If some are infected and all the teams come together for workouts in camp, then many more will get infected. That’s how viruses work. Plain and simple.

Since we know that this virus leaves people with damaged bodies including damaged lungs and nervous systems, if I were an elite professional athlete, I would really reconsider going out there and putting my future on the line until there is a vaccine. 

[Panthera onca]

10 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

If some are infected and all the teams come together for workouts in camp, then many more will get infected. That’s how viruses work. Plain and simple.

Since we know that this virus leaves people with damaged bodies including damaged lungs and nervous systems, if I were an elite professional athlete, I would really reconsider going out there and putting my future on the line until there is a vaccine. 

Does it bother you at all that most of the companies working to develop a Covid-19 vaccine are growing it on cell lines using aborted fetal tissue? No thanks.

[Happy Panther]

3 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

Does it bother you at all that most of the companies working to develop a Covid-19 vaccine are growing it on cell lines using aborted fetal tissue? 

No but can you source that?

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

4 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

Does it bother you at all that most of the companies working to develop a Covid-19 vaccine are growing it on cell lines using aborted fetal tissue? No thanks.

Better just end all research projects being performed on aborted fetal tissue then.  Hope you never got your MMR vaccine.  Or benefited from the herd immunity afforded by it.

[Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D.]

2 hours ago, 45catfan said:

There was a rumor players were having "COVID gatherings" (like chicken pox parties) to get it and be done with it.  Not just Clemson, but 'Bama and LSU too.   This was last month.  So there may be something to it since nearly half Clemson's team had already contracted it so early in team activities.  I guess the idea is if 100% of the players had contracted it and recovered by the beginning of the season, where's the problem (in theory)?  

The problem with this is that research hasn't shown people are developing immunity following exposure like normal viruses.

[Panthera onca]

30 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

No but can you source that?

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/abortion-opponents-protest-covid-19-vaccines-use-fetal-cells
 

I understand that every person has a different opinion on this sort of thing but I want no part of it. 

[frash.exe]

just look at the bright side; at least the panthers won’t lose a game this year, bc there are not going to be any games to lose

[cardiackat88.]

3 hours ago, 45catfan said:

There was a rumor players were having "COVID gatherings" (like chicken pox parties) to get it and be done with it.  Not just Clemson, but 'Bama and LSU too.   This was last month.  So there may be something to it since nearly half Clemson's team had already contracted it so early in team activities.  I guess the idea is if 100% of the players had contracted it and recovered by the beginning of the season, where's the problem (in theory)?  

A person can get COVID twice....