Cam Newton "Nobody Called Me....They Sent a Text"

[Waldo]

43 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

I'm an actual fan that watched almost every game of both their careers. I don't have to "do the research."

Receivers: Not even close - Jake

Running Backs: Even

Offensive line: Not even close - Jake

TEs: Not even close - Cam

Defensive Line: Not even close - Jake

Secondary: Jake

Linebackers: Slight advantage to Cam

 

Our Offense was Cam and everyone else ate after he set the pace. Olsen never put up Smith numbers. One was an MVP and the other was not.

Jake

Year ▲	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					103	96	56-40-0	1741	2932	59.4	20975	126	4.3	101	3.4	979	80	7.2	6.5	12.0	203.6	81.3		168	1267	6.36	5.70	5.4	19	24	67
7 yrs		CAR			91	90	53-37-0	1580	2669	59.2	19258	120	4.5	89	3.3	906	80	7.2	6.6	12.2	211.6	82.6		154	1158	6.41	5.84	5.5	17	22	62
2 yrs		NOR			6	2	1-1-0	50	86	58.1	634	3	3.5	5	5.8	28	54	7.4	5.5	12.7	105.7	68.7		6	42	6.43	4.64	6.5	1	0	2
1 yr		CLE			5	4	2-2-0	93	149	62.4	872	2	1.3	7	4.7	36	49	5.9	4.0	9.4	174.4	63.4		6	49	5.31	3.54	3.9	1	2	2
1 yr		HOU			1	0		18	28	64.3	211	1	3.6	0	0.0	9	40	7.5	8.3	11.7	211.0	99.0		2	18	6.43	7.10	6.7			1
1999	24	NOR		9	2	2	1-1-0	42	76	55.3	521	3	3.9	5	6.6	24	51	6.9	4.7	12.4	260.5	62.4		6	42	5.84	3.83	7.3	1	0	2
2002	27	NOR		12	4	0		8	10	80.0	113	0	0.0	0	0.0	4	54	11.3	11.3	14.1	28.3	113.7		0	0	11.30	11.30	0.0			0
2003	28	CAR	QB	17	16	15	10-5-0	266	449	59.2	3219	19	4.2	16	3.6	147	67	7.2	6.4	12.1	201.2	80.6		23	168	6.46	5.74	4.9	5	7	10
2004	29	CAR	QB	17	16	16	7-9-0	310	533	58.2	3886	29	5.4	15	2.8	193	63	7.3	7.1	12.5	242.9	87.3		33	246	6.43	6.26	5.8	2	3	13
2006	31	CAR	QB	17	13	13	7-6-0	263	431	61.0	2805	17	3.9	11	2.6	129	72	6.5	6.1	10.7	215.8	82.6	46.7	22	167	5.82	5.48	4.9	2	2	7
2007	32	CAR		17	3	3	2-1-0	55	86	64.0	624	8	9.3	1	1.2	27	74	7.3	8.6	11.3	208.0	111.8	64.4	5	46	6.35	7.62	5.5			2
2008	33	CAR	QB	17	16	16	12-4-0	246	414	59.4	3288	15	3.6	12	2.9	153	65	7.9	7.4	13.4	205.5	84.7	56.2	20	130	7.28	6.72	4.6	4	5	13
2009	34	CAR	QB	17	11	11	4-7-0	178	321	55.5	2015	8	2.5	18	5.6	101	52	6.3	4.3	11.3	183.2	59.4	36.9	23	187	5.31	3.42	6.7	1	2	3
2010	35	CLE		17	5	4	2-2-0	93	149	62.4	872	2	1.3	7	4.7	36	49	5.9	4.0	9.4	174.4	63.4	26.7	6	49	5.31	3.54	3.9	1	2	2
2011	36	HOU		17	1	0		18	28	64.3	211	1	3.6	0	0.0	9	40	7.5	8.3	11.7	211.0	99.0	61.5	2	18	6.43	7.10	6.7			1
2005*	30	CAR	QB	17	16	16	11-5-0	262	435	60.2	3421	24	5.5	16	3.7	156	80	7.9	7.3	13.1	213.8	88.1		28	214	6.93	6.41	6.0	3	3	14

Cam

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate	QBR	Sk	Yds	NY/A	ANY/A	Sk%	4QC	GWD	AV
Career					125	124	68-55-1	2371	3980	59.6	29041	182	4.6	108	2.7	1419	91	7.3	7.0	12.2	232.3	86.1		291	2199	6.28	6.00	6.8	15	17	123
2011*	22	CAR	QB	1	16	16	6-10-0	310	517	60.0	4051	21	4.1	17	3.3	176	91	7.8	7.2	13.1	253.2	84.5	58.1	35	260	6.87	6.24	6.3	1	1	19
2012	23	CAR	QB	1	16	16	7-9-0	280	485	57.7	3869	19	3.9	12	2.5	171	82	8.0	7.6	13.8	241.8	86.2	58.3	36	244	6.96	6.65	6.9	1	1	16
2013*	24	CAR	QB	1	16	16	12-4-0	292	473	61.7	3379	24	5.1	13	2.7	172	79	7.1	6.9	11.6	211.2	88.8	64.3	43	336	5.90	5.69	8.3	4	4	16
2014	25	CAR	QB	1	14	14	5-8-1	262	448	58.5	3127	18	4.0	12	2.7	156	51	7.0	6.6	11.9	223.4	82.1	57.3	38	300	5.82	5.45	7.8	3	2	12
2015*+	26	CAR	QB	1	16	16	15-1-0	296	495	59.8	3837	35	7.1	10	2.0	195	74	7.8	8.3	13.0	239.8	99.4	67.0	33	284	6.73	7.20	6.3	3	4	20
2016	27	CAR	QB	1	15	14	6-8-0	270	510	52.9	3509	19	3.7	14	2.7	173	88	6.9	6.4	13.0	233.9	75.8	48.0	36	277	5.92	5.46	6.6			11
2017	28	CAR	QB	1	16	16	11-5-0	291	492	59.1	3302	22	4.5	16	3.3	167	64	6.7	6.1	11.3	206.4	80.7	53.3	35	242	5.81	5.28	6.6	1	3	15
2018	29	CAR	QB	1	14	14	6-8-0	320	471	67.9	3395	24	5.1	13	2.8	180	82	7.2	7.0	10.6	242.5	94.2	55.0	29	213	6.36	6.15	5.8	2	2	13
2019	30	CAR		1	2	2	0-2-0	50	89	56.2	572	0	0.0	1	1.1	29	44	6.4	5.9	11.4	286.0	71.0		6	43	5.57	5.09	6.3			1

 

And that is without adding rushing to the conversation. Just dumb. Cam is/was a beast and Jake was 'our' JAG.

Edit: Both 7 years with the Panthers is very easy to compare...

[panthers55]

14 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Well that's one awful "football decision" to replace a guy like Cam Newton with a guy like sh*t the bed Ted?! Yikes. Got a good feeling that move will cost the team and probably someone's job in the nearer future

They got their guy. Now we will see if it a good decision or bad.

[panthers55]

5 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

Jake Delhomme was a bad QB and got a Cinderella send off. Cam is one of the best players we’ve ever had. Tepper should have catered to the fans and given Cam a classy send off. The team existed before Tepper bought them. It a horrible look.

Jake was a unheralded guy who overperformed his physical ability. Cam in some ways has never reached his athletic potential for whatever reason. He had the fantastic 2015 season and since then not much. I think the relationship between Tepper and Newton soured  the Panthers and the Corona virus screwed everything up.  It certainly wasn't handled well but I really don't know the inside story on any of it.

[Khyber53]

Can't keep crying over old girlfriends, no matter how hot they once were.

Time to move along.

[RumHam]

This got me to thinking how bad this organization is at cutting ties. It really all falls on Hurney. Gettleman sucked at it, too, but JR was tied in. This was handled awfully and why would people want to play here? If you're a long time player, you're eventually going to get poo on.

[Chief Keek]

I wish Cam all the success in the world in New England. Hopefully now that he's paired with a HC that actually understands adjustments and the modern NFL he can bounce back. I'm not ready to dog pile on Tepp just yet because Cam wasn't his QB in the first place. He gave them an opportunity but unfortunately Ron Rivera was at the helm and Cam was injured.

They could've handled this situation much better though, maybe this will be a lesson learned.

[AggieLean]

3 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Bruh!!!

If you're not playing football as an emotional wreck, then you ain't doing it right. Sorry it isn't golf, or pick up basketball, tennis at the fitness center, tiddly winks, or whatever these dudes play. You're preparing to go out and fight multiple dudes for damn near an hour!

Yeeeeesh!

Man, we used to get so hyped during games. I was a talker. I would talk trash all game. I was a CB, and if I made a stop, I was letting you know I stopped you. I got burnt a few times and had to walk back to the huddle telling the guys “I don’t know what happened” or “that’s on me” but I kept talking. We had a guy that would act like a literal maniac, and we also had some eccentric guys like Cam. 
 

If you don’t like seeing emotion, then football isn’t your game. It’s a grind getting every yard in football. It’s why these guys get so excited when they score. 

[CatMan72]

Schefter had some interesting comments on WFNZ this morning when asked about this... 

Said Cam's agent (Bus Cook) was well aware the team had planned to put him up for trade long before the supposed text. Schefter knows this because he & Bus actually talked about it months ago.

So, the communication breakdown sounds like it took place between Cam & his agent from this perspective. The team was speaking to Cam through his agent and figured a text was ok because he had already been informed by his agent that this was the plan. 

[top dawg]

8 hours ago, AggieLean said:

This list is dead as soon as you get to Stephen Curry as being humble. In fact; many compared those Warriors team to our ‘15 panthers, who won and let you know they won. A lot of NBA players can’t stand Stephen as well lol
 

Stephen Curry is humble to you?

He's just light skinned...(◠‿◕)

[KillerKat]

5 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Jake was a unheralded guy who overperformed his physical ability. Cam in some ways has never reached his athletic potential for whatever reason. He had the fantastic 2015 season and since then not much. I think the relationship between Tepper and Newton soured  the Panthers and the Corona virus screwed everything up.  It certainly wasn't handled well but I really don't know the inside story on any of it.

lol @ "for whatever reason". Yeah the reasons are painfully obvious. For "whatever reason" some choose to ignore it. Also, the same people want to act like Cam has been trash minus 2015. Yeah he was only breaking records ever since coming into the league. He did also have a good 2017 where if he had better receivers, we would've at least advanced past the first playoff game. He also had a good 2018 before the injury, but I guess we are just going to sweep all of that under the rug too?

Cam gave his body and soul to this organization. Only for his talents to be wasted and his body to be broken by a coach and front office stuck in their own incompetence. He deserved a better send off.

[TbTeRRoR]

 I got to page 4. Stopped so if some else already said this I'm sorry, but I'd like to politely remind anyone here crapping on Cam or Ownership that there are two sides to every story and you're only going to hear one.  

[AggieLean]

45 minutes ago, top dawg said:

He's just light skinned...(◠‿◕)

Man, you’re going to get me in trouble on here lol. 
 

 

 

 

You’re right, though.

[AggieLean]

17 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

lol @ "for whatever reason". Yeah the reasons are painfully obvious. For "whatever reason" some choose to ignore it. Also, the same people want to act like Cam has been trash minus 2015. Yeah he was only breaking records ever since coming into the league. He did also have a good 2017 where if he had better receivers, we would've at least advanced past the first playoff game. He also had a good 2018 before the injury, but I guess we are just going to sweep all of that under the rug too?

Cam gave his body and soul to this organization. Only for his talents to be wasted and his body to be broken by a coach and front office stuck in their own incompetence. He deserved a better send off.

Gave his body, soul, and mind to this organization. The panthers tried to change him, starting with JR telling him he’s not to get cornrows or tattoos, and hiring that consultant to encourage his speech. 
 

I felt Cam when he said he gave his mind, body and soul to this organization. He literally did. These dudes want to call Cam “high maintenance” yet always seem to forget that Cam did everything the panthers asked of him, and not once threw the organization under the bus. He also never got in trouble, or put a stain on the team name.

[CatTower]

Didn't Cam multiple times downplay injuries that resulted in longer recovery periods?  Didn't the team draft specifically for Cam for multiple years that resulted in how empty our depth is now due to none of them working out? 

It's easy to point the finger at the Panthers organization but come on.  Cam isn't the Carolina Panthers.  He had some amazing seasons here and playmaking that will likely never be surpassed by anyone.  We treated him like the Franchise but it just didn't work out. 

Quarterbacks seldom have long careers, especially when your game includes a lot of rushing.  Running backs start to decline at Cam's age and Cam without the running ability is an average QB that wanted to be treated like a top 5  QB.