Cam is a NE Patriot

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

If there is a one team that does things different, its the the Pats. Many former players all talk about how the Pats system is the toughest to grasp. Chad Johnson was a elite WR traded to the Pats, they cut him during training camp. Same thing happened to Reggie Wayne. 

Side story- Hoyer was in the draft process, it started to look like hed go undrafted. His agent told him -" If you go undrafted, we will sign with the NE". Hoyer couldnt understand why, they didnt have room, and brady was still in his prime. Once he got there and went thought their traning camp he understood. He gives lots of credit to the Pats training him the correct way, hes gone back a few times and hes there now. 

Cam has a tough fight on his hands for the starting job, Stidman has a year head start too. Who knows how TC will go with covid. Like I said before it wouldnt shock me if Cam was struggling then got a minor injury, Bill could just focus on the others that already know what Cam is learning. Cams contract gives NOTHING for protection, so no cap issues. Chuds system was very simple to how the Pats do offensive. 

We all know you're hoping and praying this all happens while now hedging your bets about being all in on Rhule by claiming he has the hardest job in the history of coaching football, but good god... just stop.

[panthers55]

8 hours ago, jfra78 said:

The same people who wished Olsen, TD, Ryan Kalil, and many more panthers well when they went to other teams,  are in here hoping Cam fails at the Patriots.  Why can't you just say "good for Cam, hope he does well" and leave it alone?  The dude was easily the best QB this team has ever had, he deserves more respect than this from the fans.

It isn't about Cam it is New England. People don't want to see Belicheck succeed so if Cam plays for them then he becomes the enemy. I love him as a player but not as long as he plays for the dark side.

[Basbear]

38 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Chad Johnson played an entire season as a reserve but was old and unproductive - he couldn't make Miami's team the following year. Wayne was also old and well into his decline. No denying NE is complex and that Cam may not be the same as he was but your examples are poor and/or incorrect.

I didnt remember Johnson playing even as a reserve, thats was incorrect. Those examples where to show great offensive players on one team for their long career, had big issues adapting to the Pats way. Its a HUGE adjustment, I mean during Olsens time here he always helped Cam with play calls in the huddle. Thats another issue for Cam adpating, maybe Julian Edelman could fill that role. 

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We all know you're hoping and praying this all happens while now hedging your bets about being all in on Rhule by claiming he has the hardest job in the history of coaching football, but good god... just stop.

Nope just talking, I know its hard to keep up with everyones Cam feelings. I gave plenty of support for Cam many times here. Said Id take him over Teddy and if Jerry had any sense pull Daks tag to sign Cam. Hes going into unknown environment that nearly all have trouble adapting, especially for a QB. Pointing that out doesnt mean I want him to fail.  

Besides Cam, I never liked the Rhule hire or ALL his Baylor bros. He made the job harder by dumping Cam too. See Im not 100% on Cam or Rhule, I can talk about the good, bad, and reality.   

[kungfoodude]

53 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

It isn't about Cam it is New England. People don't want to see Belicheck succeed so if Cam plays for them then he becomes the enemy. I love him as a player but not as long as he plays for the dark side.

This is me. Cam is top 3 in my favorite Panthers in franchise history but no fuging way am I fuging wishing the Pats well.

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, MechaZain said:

There is noooooo way they didn't offer anything

Well, the team could have made public any offer they made to make themselves look better in the PR battle.

Now ask yourself... why didn't they?

Nothing remains secret in negotiations.  NOTHING.  Which means what you and I know now is likely the truth.

In other words, the Panthers didn't offer poo.

[weyco2000]

2 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Well, the team could have made public any offer they made to make themselves look better in the PR battle.

Now ask yourself... why didn't they?

Nothing remains secret in negotiations.  NOTHING.  Which means what you and I know now is likely the truth.

In other words, the Panthers didn't offer poo.

Franchise QB in the last year of his contract? You're actually saying there were no talks.... give me a break. 

[kungfoodude]

15 hours ago, jfra78 said:

The same people who wished Olsen, TD, Ryan Kalil, and many more panthers well when they went to other teams,  are in here hoping Cam fails at the Patriots.  Why can't you just say "good for Cam, hope he does well" and leave it alone?  The dude was easily the best QB this team has ever had, he deserves more respect than this from the fans.

I have never wished any former Panther well that went to the goddamn Pats.

[Car123]

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I have never wished any former Panther well that went to the goddamn Pats.

Besides Lafell what notable player went to New England?

[LegioX]

Everyone hates the Patriots, now Cam goes there and  people are cheering for them. Can’t make this up.

Cam we never top tier good as a QB if he did not have his run game to complement him. We shall see how he does In the AFC.

[kungfoodude]

18 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Besides Lafell what notable player went to New England?

Basically none. I would feel the same about any of them. Luke. Steve. Peppers. Olsen. TD. 

[GRWatcher]

1 hour ago, Car123 said:

Besides Lafell what notable player went to New England?

Tyrone Poole is the most notable. Drafted by the Panthers first round in 1995. Now has 2 Super Bowl rings.

[Moo Daeng]

1 hour ago, Car123 said:

Besides Lafell what notable player went to New England?

Kony Ealy and Ken Walter

[rodeo]

really good video here

 

 

[MechaZain]

10 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Well, the team could have made public any offer they made to make themselves look better in the PR battle.

Now ask yourself... why didn't they?

Nothing remains secret in negotiations.  NOTHING.  Which means what you and I know now is likely the truth.

In other words, the Panthers didn't offer poo.

And tamper his free agency even further? You're picturing one vindictive front office my man. And it was certainly a lowball so the numbers won't make them look any better if it turns out he's still elite.