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Cam is a NE Patriot


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5 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

I am not sure the Pats will allow him to have his own separate personal marketing team with him for practices and games. Doesn't seem like something Bill B would go along with. 

Considering that the Patriots are now banned from filming during games as part of their punishment, Belichick might welcome it with open arms.

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The same people who wished Olsen, TD, Ryan Kalil, and many more panthers well when they went to other teams,  are in here hoping Cam fails at the Patriots.  Why can't you just say "good for Cam, hope he does well" and leave it alone?  The dude was easily the best QB this team has ever had, he deserves more respect than this from the fans.

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9 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The same people who wished Olsen, TD, Ryan Kalil, and many more panthers well when they went to other teams,  are in here hoping Cam fails at the Patriots.  Why can't you just say "good for Cam, hope he does well" and leave it alone?  The dude was easily the best QB this team has ever had, he deserves more respect than this from the fans.

I'm honestly struggling to recall personally wishing a player ill upon his departure.

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15 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Dude, this is a myth.

No basis in fact.

The Panthers didn't offer Cam Newton jack poo.

nobody offered him anything other than the patriots.  sheffty reported the browns were the only other team to talk to him but they didn't make an offer.   he's got his shot now either way.   

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22 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

their talk as of a month ago pretty strongly indicated they thought Stidham has a shot at being Tom Brady-lite. 

LOL...

Dude, I've been to every college game played by Cam Newton and Jarrett Stidham.

Cam is a true star and legendary talent and always will be, even if his body no longer allows him to play (God forbid).

Stidham has happy feet, bolts from the pocket at the first sign of pressure, and maybe (just *maybe*) has the top-end of playing enough years in this league as a back-up QB to get his NFL pension.

Just being totally honest here.  There is absolutely NOTHING "Brady-lite" about Jarrett Stidham.  (And I actually wish the kid well and I hope he proves me wrong.)

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1 minute ago, tiger7_88 said:

LOL...

Dude, I've been to every college game played by Cam Newton and Jarrett Stidham.

Cam is a true star and legendary talent and always will be, even if his body no longer allows him to play (God forbid).

Stidham has happy feet, bolts from the pocket at the first sign of pressure, and maybe (just *maybe*) has the top-end of playing enough years in this league as a back-up QB to get his NFL pension.

Just being totally honest here.  There is absolutely NOTHING "Brady-lite" about Jarrett Stidham.  (And I actually wish the kid well and I hope he proves me wrong.)

I never got what they were thinking, either. 

There is some degree of unhappiness between Hoodie and Kraft over the Brady situation that has seeped through their offseason.

Hoodie wanted to move on from Brady a few years ago, when Garoppolo was hitting critical mass.  Kraft overruled him, they dealt Garoppolo, and the reality of the dynasty probably ending when Brady decided instead of transitioning and staying alive set in.  The irony of that mess is that neither Hoodie, Kraft, nor Brady got what they wanted.

So, the open confidence in Stidham may have been Hoodie's way of telling Kraft and the Pats faithful that this is the hand they are dealt, he didn't deal the hand, but he'll play it. 

Or he really thinks Stidham is Brady-lite.  In which case all bets are off.

Even though they mentioned a competition between Hoyer and Stidham (prior to Cam) for the starting spot, I did not see much other talk that Hoyer would actually be the day one starter.  Cam gives them an out, if he proves healthy.  "We like Stidham a lot, but we just happened to wander into a former MVP who is healthy again" plays a lot better than "Stidham is Brady-lite, but Hoyer is our starter."

 

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59 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The same people who wished Olsen, TD, Ryan Kalil, and many more panthers well when they went to other teams,  are in here hoping Cam fails at the Patriots.  Why can't you just say "good for Cam, hope he does well" and leave it alone?  The dude was easily the best QB this team has ever had, he deserves more respect than this from the fans.

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cam newton would not have signed this contract if he didn't think he couldn't play, or wasn't going to hit the benchmarks set.  otherwise, why risk it? vet min to cam is a weekend in europe. he's going to light it up, and i'm happy he went to a franchise that will maximize his talents and protect him.

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9 hours ago, Tepper’s Used Car Lot said:

You mean like he did during his lockout impacted rookie year? 

I'm fairly certain a proven MVP NFL veteran can pick up an offense quicker than a rookie coming into the league.

If there is a one team that does things different, its the the Pats. Many former players all talk about how the Pats system is the toughest to grasp. Chad Johnson was a elite WR traded to the Pats, they cut him during training camp. Same thing happened to Reggie Wayne. 

Side story- Hoyer was in the draft process, it started to look like hed go undrafted. His agent told him -" If you go undrafted, we will sign with the NE". Hoyer couldnt understand why, they didnt have room, and brady was still in his prime. Once he got there and went thought their traning camp he understood. He gives lots of credit to the Pats training him the correct way, hes gone back a few times and hes there now. 

Cam has a tough fight on his hands for the starting job, Stidman has a year head start too. Who knows how TC will go with covid. Like I said before it wouldnt shock me if Cam was struggling then got a minor injury, Bill could just focus on the others that already know what Cam is learning. Cams contract gives NOTHING for protection, so no cap issues. Chuds system was very simple to how the Pats do offensive. 

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6 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Dude, this is a myth.

No basis in fact.

The Panthers didn't offer Cam Newton jack poo.

There is noooooo way they didn't offer anything at all that would have been a deliberate and malicious "screw you" of epic proportions. I agree that Cam likely thought he was easily worth at least 3 years at typical salary elsewhere and the team probably wouldn't commit that long and/or wanted him to restructure to something heavily performance based. 

 

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1 hour ago, Basbear said:

If there is a one team that does things different, its the the Pats. Many former players all talk about how the Pats system is the toughest to grasp. Chad Johnson was a elite WR traded to the Pats, they cut him during training camp. Same thing happened to Reggie Wayne. 

Side story- Hoyer was in the draft process, it started to look like hed go undrafted. His agent told him -" If you go undrafted, we will sign with the NE". Hoyer couldnt understand why, they didnt have room, and brady was still in his prime. Once he got there and went thought their traning camp he understood. He gives lots of credit to the Pats training him the correct way, hes gone back a few times and hes there now. 

Cam has a tough fight on his hands for the starting job, Stidman has a year head start too. Who knows how TC will go with covid. Like I said before it wouldnt shock me if Cam was struggling then got a minor injury, Bill could just focus on the others that already know what Cam is learning. Cams contract gives NOTHING for protection, so no cap issues. Chuds system was very simple to how the Pats do offensive. 

Chad Johnson played an entire season as a reserve but was old and unproductive - he couldn't make Miami's team the following year. Wayne was also old and well into his decline. No denying NE is complex and that Cam may not be the same as he was but your examples are poor and/or incorrect.

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