Unpopular opinion. Just cancel all pro sports until a vaccine hits

[LinvilleGorge]

8 minutes ago, toldozer said:

In my opinion this is why nothing should have ever shut down. People die, is that heartless, maybe but it's true. Obviously if you have any medical issues you should be extra careful and people should be careful around you.  But now if some new illness comes out in 6 months what do we do? Or if the second wave of covid is worse than the first do we shut the country down for 6 months? The precedent that has been set is not sustainable long term any time something  comes up. Point is precautions could have been taken to keep the vulnerable safe without tanking the economy. 

I would agree if idiots would actually follow said precautions. Meanwhile, we have lots of people going about refusing to wear masks and refusing to make any efforts to socially distance because of their "freedoms".

Ironically, it's a lot of those very people who are now claiming that other precautions could've been taken other than shutting down.

TLDR: people are stupid and hypocritical

[Brooklyn 3.0]

23 Clemson players tested positive. It'll only be a matter of time before one team in the NFL has an outbreak. The NFL's only option is to do what the NBA is doing.

[toldozer]

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I would agree if idiots would actually follow said precautions. Meanwhile, we have lots of people going about refusing to wear masks and refusing to make any efforts to socially distance because of their "freedoms".

Ironically, it's a lot of those very people who are now claiming that other precautions could've been taken other than shutting down.

TLDR: people are stupid and hypocritical

That's true but ultimately you cant control every aspect of people. You can however enforce guidelines on private property. If people were refused entry to places If they didnt comply then they would.  Seems very simple. Throwing your hands up saying well people are fuging dumb so we have to shut everything down is silly.

[raz]

no way i would live in a bubble without friends and family.  f that.   i'm down with just individual sports for a while because i wouldn't personally do what is going to be required. i wouldn't expect anyone to.  

[45catfan]

Cancel altogether or with no fans, it's going to have to be that way.  Absolutely no way the League can get around various state requirements without giving a competitive advantage...real or perceived.  Teams should already be reaching out to season ticket holders about refund preferences.  I know that they have put out information already, but preseason games are just two months away and there's no way some states are going to allow fans even if mandatory mask wearing is required. 

[Happy Panther]

Well baseball is being played. I'm watching soccer right now. NASCAR is good. MLB could play if they could agree on anything. NBA is going to play. Golf works fine. NHL might play. NFL is really the big question mark.

[electro's horse]

56 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I would agree if idiots would actually follow said precautions. Meanwhile, we have lots of people going about refusing to wear masks and refusing to make any efforts to socially distance because of their "freedoms".

Ironically, it's a lot of those very people who are now claiming that other precautions could've been taken other than shutting down.

TLDR: people are stupid and hypocritical

yeah this entire event has made it very clear that next time there's a credible threat from a virus/bacteria, it will take direct federal intervention, most likely the army, to enforce any kind of meaningful quarantine. 

also ww2 level financial intervention which is obviously something a republican president and senate are never going to agree to.

unless of course it's shoveling money into the wall street burning hole in which case money printer go brrrr

[parker]

I think the NFL will be cancelled. People always talk about high risk, but that risk is for death.  A healthy person can still catch it and need to be hospitalized.  There can also be higher risks for strokes (blood clots) and lung damage. I just don't see the owners willing to take that big a risk with the base of their operations.

[1of10Charnatives]

6 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

yeah this entire event has made it very clear that next time there's a credible threat from a virus/bacteria, it will take direct federal intervention, most likely the army, to enforce any kind of meaningful quarantine. 

also ww2 level financial intervention which is obviously something a republican president and senate are never going to agree to.

unless of course it's shoveling money into the wall street burning hole in which case money printer go brrrr

If you love America, you throw money in its hole. Simple as that.

[PanthersATL]

13 hours ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

 A vaccine is right around the corner, at worst we will have a vaccine by Valentine’s Day 2021 (which honestly isn’t long at all) and now there are even talks of a vaccine possibly by November.

Even if a vaccine comes out in late 2020, it's not going to be manufactured in a large enough quantity to vaccinate everyone at the same time. Plus, there's likely some timeframe for the vaccine to become effective once it's been injected (a week? one month? two months?).  Or maybe, the vaccine will require a second booster a month later to become effective (like for Shingles).

The first people to get vaccinated will be front-line workers. If NFL players are vaccinated before our medical staff are, there will likely be an uproar.  And if if it's an annual vaccination like the flu, I wouldn't expect mass availability until summer/fall 2021.... if then.

If having a vaccine ready is a requirement for the 2020 NFL season, the season probably won't happen.

[kungfoodude]

27 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

yeah this entire event has made it very clear that next time there's a credible threat from a virus/bacteria, it will take direct federal intervention, most likely the army, to enforce any kind of meaningful quarantine. 

also ww2 level financial intervention which is obviously something a republican president and senate are never going to agree to.

unless of course it's shoveling money into the wall street burning hole in which case money printer go brrrr

[LinvilleGorge]

32 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

Even if a vaccine comes out in late 2020, it's not going to be manufactured in a large enough quantity to vaccinate everyone at the same time. Plus, there's likely some timeframe for the vaccine to become effective once it's been injected (a week? one month? two months?).  Or maybe, the vaccine will require a second booster a month later to become effective (like for Shingles).

The first people to get vaccinated will be front-line workers. If NFL players are vaccinated before our medical staff are, there will likely be an uproar.  And if if it's an annual vaccination like the flu, I wouldn't expect mass availability until summer/fall 2021.... if then.

If having a vaccine ready is a requirement for the 2020 NFL season, the season probably won't happen.

I agree with most everything you said, except for who will get vaccinated first. Just like with testing, the first availability will be to the rich and famous. How many times did we see celebrities tweet about their negative test results while exhibiting mild or no symptoms while the common person displaying prototypical symptoms were told that no test was available for them?

[Paa Langfart]

51 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

wall street burning hole

or the military industrial complex

[PanthersATL]

14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 the first availability will be to the rich and famous. How many times did we see celebrities tweet about their negative test results while exhibiting mild or no symptoms 

Yes they did. But there's a difference between hiring a private lab to run a test vs relying on public-sector testing via kits provided by (the CDC? government? some other entity that is not running for-profit-medical?)  

There have been many for-profit labs that offered testing and don't accept insurance. You're right - the average person *could* go to those places and get tested.... but it's not economically feasible. 

Back in 2004 during the flu vaccine shortage, many elderly refused to get vaccinated - saying that they'd rather sacrifice their vaccine so their grandchildren could get it. The biggest question that will need to be answered will be if there are only 30 million vaccines available this year -- how do you divvy those up amongst a 300m population?  

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/939mve/how-are-celebrities-getting-tested-for-covid-19

But to bring it back to football: first, they'll need the teams vaccinated. Then the support staff for the games. Then they'll have to wait some innoculation period. THEN we'll have some football. It won't be September, I reckon.  And we're not going to like a Nov-March 2021 season - those mud games in the spring will be nasty/injury-potentials for the players to play in.