Richardson Statue Coming Down

[rico6]

Just now, 45catfan said:

Know your history @rico6? Because it doesn't look like it.

Nobody cares about the losing team

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

again, nobody is modifying the movie. you're making a strawman.

warner brothers has had 'this is bad' acknowledgments in front of their old blackface cartoons for decades. you survived.

A little late to the discussion.  Someone else brought up the movie.  Prior to that I was talking about people try to change history to make more acceptable and less offensive.

[Inimicus]

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

There's the problem.  Suzy is offended by something so it needs to be erased or modified.  Billy thinks something else is offensive, so it has to be taken away. Leo says, well, I think this other thing is offensive.  After multiplying this scenario out over million times, history is all but erased or modified to be acceptable.

Nobody gives a good god damn what Suzy, Billy, or Leo thinks.

But when there are hundreds of thousands of people marching in the streets and millions more behind them united in putting an end to the turning a blind eye to the obvious racist things we have done and continue to do, well thats when poo gets done.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Nobody cares about the losing team

I thought you were a little iffy on your history.  Most of the iconic structures around the world were built with slave labor.  Nobody is justifying it, because it can't, but it's how those historical things were built.   Should all of them be tore down?  That's not rhetorical, I really want to know.

[rico6]

4 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I thought you were a little iffy on your history.  Most of the iconic structures around the world were built with slave labor.  Nobody is justifying it, because it can't, but it's how those historical things were built.   Should all of them be tore down?  That's not rhetorical, I really want to know.

Taken out of places like courthouses, college campuses and just about anywhere frequented by the public. Definitely.

Stick them on some crappy Civil War re-enactment field for the very small demographic who cares about its “history”.

[LegioX]

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I thought you were a little iffy on your history.  Most of the iconic structures around the world were built with slave labor.  Nobody is justifying it, because it can't, but it's how those historical things were built.   Should all of them be tore down?  That's not rhetorical, I really want to know.

There goes the Pyramids of Giza. 

[mav1234]

9 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I thought you were a little iffy on your history.  Most of the iconic structures around the world were built with slave labor.  Nobody is justifying it, because it can't, but it's how those historical things were built.   Should all of them be tore down?  That's not rhetorical, I really want to know.

Plenty of iconic structures were not built with slave labor, and some that are have notices that they were built by slaves, and in most countries, that is acknowledged as abhorrent.  Most countries do not have a sizable portion of their population that venerates a traitorous faction whose entire reason for existence was to maintain legal slavery. 

Gone with the Wind is not historically accurate in the full (tbh I don't think fiction needs to be, but aspects of it are assuredly problematic). It perpetuates a myth of slavery that I see brought up in discussions regularly here in the South. Before moving here, I always assumed that it was fringe lunatics that thought people were "well treated" during slavery, or slaves were part of the family, etc.  I have encountered that enough here to realize there is a problem with the cultural representations here in the South (and elsewhere in the US - perhaps I was lucky to learn what I did when growing up) of slavery and the Confederacy, and in fact, history has already been changed - and by the survivors of the traitorous losing side. 

[LegioX]

3 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Taken out of places like courthouses, college campuses and just about anywhere frequented by the public. Definitely.

Stick them on some crappy Civil War re-enactment field for the very small demographic who cares about its “history”.

Why do you demonize a specific group of people who enjoy history? 
 

and don’t  even say I’m supporting keeping statues on private or public land, because I feel that’s exactly where your going to go. 

[rico6]

1 minute ago, LegioX said:

There goes the Pyramids of Giza. 

We’re still comparing bronze bird poop catchers to historical landmarks I see lol

[rico6]

Just now, LegioX said:

Why do you demonize a specific group of people who enjoy history? 

Oh boo hoo. Like I said, take The Great Robert E Lee’s statue and stick on a Civil War re-enactment site or some poo and be done with it. 
 

Nobody cares about those traitors.

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, LegioX said:

There goes the Pyramids of Giza. 

talk about slippery slop fallacy.

[45catfan]

4 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Taken out of places like courthouses, college campuses and just about anywhere frequented by the public. Definitely.

Stick them on some crappy Civil War re-enactment field for the very small demographic who cares about its “history”.

Thank you for being honest and that's kinda what I figured.

[45catfan]

Just now, mav1234 said:

talk about slippery slop fallacy.

What, that the pyramids were helped built with slave labor?  Fact, not fallacy.

[rico6]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

What, that the pyramids were helped built with slave labor?  Fact, not fallacy.

Oh good lord