Richardson Statue Coming Down

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Multiple outlets are saying the panthers are refusing to say if the removal is temporary.

Probably because it's not.

But they can say it is if necessary to avoid a legal challenge.

[Mr. Scot]

Side Note: Anyone else remember the poem about Ozymandias?

That's what this story makes me think of.

[45catfan]

16 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Multiple outlets are saying the panthers are refusing to say if the removal is temporary.

Of course they won't, because they are using the current environment to run cover for ditching it. Tepper needs to show those big brass balls and just admit it.   Sure it may cost him a chunk of change, but he can afford it.  Why tippy-toe around it?  Hell, it's only been a few hours and everyone has this figured out.

[t96]

4 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Let Richardson try to sue in the current social and political environment. He would be insane to do so. 

Not really. A contract is a contract. But we have no clue at all what the specific terms were.

[Inimicus]

Not a lawyer but I deal with a lot of contracts in my work

Ive always been pretty dubious over the idea that Tepper had to keep the statue when he doesn't own the land.  My understanding is that the team leases the land from the city but own the improvement that is the stadium.  There just isn't a mechanism to demand the statue remain in place when the land it sits on isn't part of the sale.

 

[MHS831]

It was tacky.  Reminded me of the Ben Stiller portrait in Dodge Ball.  "That really happened."

[1of10Charnatives]

2 hours ago, Gazi said:

On the same day? Coincidence? I think not 

Pleasantly surprised at this. Not going to endear them to much of their traditional fanbase but was the right move morally and socially. Never been a huge fan of the sport but my respect for NASCAR as an organization just went up quite a bit.

[Inimicus]

21 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Pleasantly surprised at this. Not going to endear them to much of their traditional fanbase but was the right move morally and socially. Never been a huge fan of the sport but my respect for NASCAR as an organization just went up quite a bit.

^This^

[GOAT]

bet they'll remove the ballsack from the panthers eventually if a fem protest breaks loose.

[t96]

1 hour ago, Inimicus said:

Not a lawyer but I deal with a lot of contracts in my work

Ive always been pretty dubious over the idea that Tepper had to keep the statue when he doesn't own the land.  My understanding is that the team leases the land from the city but own the improvement that is the stadium.  There just isn't a mechanism to demand the statue remain in place when the land it sits on isn't part of the sale.

 

Yeah I doubt that the contract made it very hard to get rid of the statue. It’s possible though Tepper has to pay JR another $50M or something to get rid of it now—probably worth that in PR anyways if that’s the case.

[cookinwithgas]

2 hours ago, LegioX said:

I’m an avid history guru and study all periods. I’m disturbed to think this might roll over in state and national battlefields. I hope not. Those are the one places that should not be touched. 
 

this is concerning confederate flags and monuments on those battlefields 

When I was in France visiting Normandy I made a point of visiting the German cemetery too. It's treated with the same respect as ours, most of the dead "Germans" in that region were conscripts from other countries while the German Army was busy in the Soviet Union

 

And the American Cemetery - I still have that '95 vintage jacket

[Montsta]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Side Note: Anyone else remember the poem about Ozymandias?

That's what this story makes me think of.

fuging spot on here. 

[Montsta]

1 hour ago, Inimicus said:

Not a lawyer but I deal with a lot of contracts in my work

Ive always been pretty dubious over the idea that Tepper had to keep the statue when he doesn't own the land.  My understanding is that the team leases the land from the city but own the improvement that is the stadium.  There just isn't a mechanism to demand the statue remain in place when the land it sits on isn't part of the sale.

 

I remember a gas station by where I grew up got sold but a term of the sale was that it was called “Fig Tree Service” in perpetuity, instead of, say, Valero. Also when big developers buy a ranch to build a hundred homes it is incredibly common for them to demand that the development, or street names therein, be named after the family indefinitely.  

This could be like that I suppose. 

[Happy Panther]

1 hour ago, Inimicus said:

Not a lawyer but I deal with a lot of contracts in my work

Ive always been pretty dubious over the idea that Tepper had to keep the statue when he doesn't own the land.  My understanding is that the team leases the land from the city but own the improvement that is the stadium.  There just isn't a mechanism to demand the statue remain in place when the land it sits on isn't part of the sale.

 

Yeah there is always a mechanism. As @t96 says it comes in the formof payment. This is common in the contracts I have people sign to view my work. If you hand it off to another third party without permission you pay me $100k. It's what my lawyer says is common. Maybe it's way more complicated than that for a statue but we will see.