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Eric Reid goes off on NFL

TheSpecialJuan

By TheSpecialJuan,
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kungfoodude Grand Master

kungfoodude

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6 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The flag and anthem does not represent the military.  It represents the country as a whole, including the military.  He was protesting social injustice, not just police brutality.  Social injustice is an issue that affects the entire country, so it was appropriate to protest at this time.  He was not the first to protest during the National Anthem, and he wont be the last. The only reason people believed it was against the military is because a certain president claimed that it was.

I am literally amazed that anyone thinks it was disrespectful to the military. That is possibly the dumbest fuging thing I have heard since this started.

It's made even worse by the fact that egotistical, crybaby(this is a football slight, not about the protest) literally was told by a veteran to kneel instead of sit. 

 

How about this one. I constantly get dirty looks at sporting events for not taking off my hat during the anthem. Because it is a fuging MORONIC tradition. What does my bald ass head being exposed or not exposed have to do with "respect?" It's DUMB. But I guess not wanting to take off my hat means I am shitting into an APC filled with veterans, right?

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5 hours ago, raz said:

psychological change doesn't take time.  it happens in an instant once you actually see the problem.  you can't see the problem when you have a troubled mind.  we're not talking about changing a mountain pass into a road, or a plot of land into a hospital - those things take time.  we're talking about perceiving a reality so many people seem to have a hard time perceiving because they have too many problems in the way already.  some of those issues are anger, fear, prejudice, and loads and loads of strange beliefs.   drew brees beliefs get in the way of his ability to love a lot.  he has provided a lot of support to NO but he has religious beliefs that get in the way of his support of the black, lgtbqi, and other communities.  his beliefs are more important to him than love and compassion.  this is the issue so many people have.   christianity teaches that belief is the most important thing in your life.   this is a giant obstacle.   your beliefs can never be complete.  they are all based on incomplete information.  they come from memory, knowledge and experience. each one of those can be added onto, and has been since you were born.  if you lived 1000 years they would be added on to for 1000 years.  they can never be complete, they will always be based on limited information.  beliefs aren't worth having for this very reason.   all they do is make you perceive the world with things in the way so you don't get a clear picture.  if you don't have a clear picture you can't see the problem.     gravity is a fact.   believing a god likes or dislikes something is not.  beliefs are just a way to shield yourself from the greater reality inside and outside of what we think we are.  its a fact we have a racism and inequality issue in this country.  being able to clearly see that takes no time at all.

I was talking about reform. I want reform, but I understand what it means. The same people who are wanting reform and also say to defund police seem to be limited by those two thoughts and not much understanding of the implications. 

Reform and change will cost. And it will cost big time. They go hand in hand. IF it is done properly. And it won’t be overnight. And it will be hard. Most protesters are in their 20s...and don’t understand taxes and costs and real change. Doesn’t make their cause any less important but it does mean that  they don’t fully understand it. 

Under funding is one of the root causes of police brutality. Improper training. Incompetent hiring. Pathetic salary and wages. Those are some of the causes. If you want to improve and change those things it costs money and time. But no one wants to realize, we must give those things up, we must offer those things to truly change. It’s not simply as easy as ‘hey, don’t hire this person’. There has to be a more quality option and candidate...but there really hasn’t been, but why? Are they simply being overlooked? My money says there is a lack of interest. But what does that candidate need to want to do that kind of work? How can they be attracted? Simple example is that they’re most likely educated. Education costs money. Will you pay them for it? These are things that need to be figured out and it WILL take resources and time to not only discover that but sustain it. We all want quality to guide our reform and quality always has a price.

As far as people psychological make up it’s just not that simple. It’s like saying a battered woman or man can simply leave their abuser if they choose to open up their eyes. That’s all it takes. It’s not true. Religion is a good example as well. These things that are engrained to some people’s fabrication of being, right or wrong. It’s all they know, or all they think they know. Trying to force them out of that instead of accepting it needs to be chipped away at in time, is ultimately a dangerous game to play, because you’re essentially telling them they need to forget they even exist and start over. That’s going to fail or cause confrontation 9/10.

If you truly believe racism is something that is engrained into society you simply can not say it’s a matter of just turning a switch. People are all different, some are not built to be able to have the bravery to just change so rapidly. Not with religion, not with abuse and not with social reform. As society it's our job not to discard these people, but to help them muster up the freedom and courage to change their mentality. To finally leave that abuser, to respect other word views. To be taught self worth, self respect and respect to others.  They may have not be taught this in even the slightest sense their entire lives, and those important lessons are FAR from a 10 minute discussions telling them to just open their eyes.

Do not discredit other people's experiences, thoughts, biological make up and teachings in their life that has made them think they way they do or be the person they are by assuming you understand them. I assure you, you don't. It is not possible to live a lifetime of another and thus impossible to understand. The answer is to keep teaching and keep learning. For everyone, myself included.

Perhaps you and I were taught much better, or had experiences (negative or positive) or people in life like you said that help us. But maybe others haven't. But do not discount the time and work it will take others to change to something as simply as all of a sudden thinking different than what they have been their whole life. Furthermore, to just expect them to take their entire life experiences and beliefs and all of a sudden have the ability to 'see the light' and go against everything they've ever known. It's  not realistic. It’s not human nature. You nor I could or would do that. Why would they? What is for one is not for another.

This will take time, this will take patience and understanding, this will take education, and this WILL take money. I am willing to give this to the cause, are you? 

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23 hours ago, Ja Rhule said:

NFL income is around ~10B.  His point remains.  Bank of America announced they will donate $1B to social injustice.

I just came in to say, NONE of these donations will actually reach black people. Iits just a tax write off, and a show. 

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The league sways whichever way the moment suggests. They hitched their wagon to Trump and fake patriotism. Now that is showing itself for what anyone should have been able to identity years ago...now they have switched course. Thus proving what Kap, Reid, and others were alleging all along.

They have but one motivation. $  

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TB but I’ll just say this “denounce the police 4 their history of murder” is like denouncing all of the Muslims in the world for the few that downed the World Trade Center— they all did it right?  
 

I’ve known a lot of cops... from a lot of backgrounds and sure you have some power trippers and others. Most are just trying to serve the peace and help justice. 
 

you cannot persecute ALL of them any more than you can persecute ALL black people for the few that have committed murders, or all white people for the few that have committed murders or Asians for the few that have committed murders

persecute the guilty but issuing a blanket statement against a whole group in itself is irrational bigotry just the same as all the rest.

 

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