PFF Ranks All Starting QBs. Where Does Bridgewater Rank?

[Gesualdo]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Top 10??

By the end of the season, likely in the top 5 conversation. We have a number of older stars who are about to fall off a cliff, and younger players due to regress. Big Time Teddy is in the sweet spot. 

[kungfoodude]

13 minutes ago, Gesualdo said:

By the end of the season, likely in the top 5 conversation. We have a number of older stars who are about to fall off a cliff, and younger players due to regress. Big Time Teddy is in the sweet spot. 

Listen, I completely disagree. I like your optimism, however. Wish I shared it.

[jfra78]

27 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Listen, I completely disagree. I like your optimism, however. Wish I shared it.

I think in the right system he could look like a top half QB.  Hope we have the right system

[AU-panther]

I know I've seemed negative about Teddy's contract, but I actually think he is going to play very well this year, barring injury of course.  I think he has a chance to fit what we want to do schematically.

The concern for me is can play well enough to prevent us from needing to draft a QB next year?

If the answer is yes, then we have our guy on a relatively cheap contract.  If the answer is no, then there is a very good chance he is going to make it harder for us to draft a QB that we want (draft position).

Question for everyone else, over/under on us needing to draft a QB next year?

 

 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I think in the right system he could look like a top half QB.  Hope we have the right system

Yeah, still skeptical of that OL. I don't think it is better than when Cam was here(save the upgrade at LT). And Cam was a much more physically imposing QB than Teddy. 

I am not a hater, though. I hope it all works out. I just don't see it though.

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I know I've seemed negative about Teddy's contract, but I actually think he is going to play very well this year, barring injury of course.  I think he has a chance to fit what we want to do schematically.

The concern for me is can play well enough to prevent us from needing to draft a QB next year?

If the answer is yes, then we have our guy on a relatively cheap contract.  If the answer is no, then there is a very good chance he is going to make it harder for us to draft a QB that we want (draft position).

Question for everyone else, over/under on us needing to draft a QB next year?

 

 

Set the line.

[rico6]

21 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I think in the right system he could look like a top half QB.  Hope we have the right system

Teddy's "system" has always been equipped with a top 10 defense though. The defense next year is going to be awful. Not sure why this is overlooked so constantly.  

On the bright side, Cmac's numbers are going to be crazy this year.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Teddy's "system" has always been equipped with a top 10 defense though. The defense next year is going to be awful. Not sure why this is overlooked so constantly.  

On the bright side, Cmac's numbers are going to be crazy this year.

That depends on how we utilize him. It is entirely possible that we decide NOT to run him into the ground. It would be a wise decision, although it would cause much wailing and knashing of teeth amongst the fantasy owners.

[rico6]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That depends on how we utilize him. It is entirely possible that we decide NOT to run him into the ground. It would be a wise decision, although it would cause much wailing and knashing of teeth amongst the fantasy owners.

Cmac has to hit his obligatory 1000 rush, 1000 receiving and 100 catch 5-11 record quota or this place would fuging riot.

 

I agree with you though, CMAC would be better utilized not being ran into atoms by year 2 of his contract. At least until the next Franchise QB is plopped in our laps. 

[Gesualdo]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Listen, I completely disagree. I like your optimism, however. Wish I shared it.

I'm just f*cking around because it looked like Rastan66 was having fun doing it, and "Big Time Teddy" is some funny trolling. In reality, Dishwater is a quite-okay quarterback, and there are too many here who hate him solely due to who he isn't - but as you basically said, it's hard to scheme your way around a crap OL you've done f*ck all to improve. And despite drafting multiple future HOFers in the late rounds on defense (so I'm told), this is a broke-ass D.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Gesualdo said:

I'm just f*cking around because it looked like Rastan66 was having fun doing it, and "Big Time Teddy" is some funny trolling. In reality, Dishwater is a quite-okay quarterback, and there are too many here who hate him solely due to who he isn't - but as you basically said, it's hard to scheme your way around a crap OL you've done f*ck all to improve. And despite drafting multiple future HOFers in the late rounds on defense (so I'm told), this is a broke-ass D.

Rastan is just a troll. No more, no less. Probably less a Panthers fan than an interested bystander.

[RASTAN66]

4 hours ago, Gesualdo said:

I'm just f*cking around because it looked like Rastan66 was having fun doing it, and "Big Time Teddy" is some funny trolling. In reality, Dishwater is a quite-okay quarterback, and there are too many here who hate him solely due to who he isn't - but as you basically said, it's hard to scheme your way around a crap OL you've done f*ck all to improve. And despite drafting multiple future HOFers in the late rounds on defense (so I'm told), this is a broke-ass D.

Whoopsy!

@kungfoodude

Cheers fellas...

Round 2

33. Kansas City: Dalvin Cook, RB
34. San Francisco: Myles Garrett, DE
35. Green Bay: David Bakhtiari, OT
36. Tennessee: Cam Newton, QB

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, RASTAN66 said:

Whoopsy!

@kungfoodude

Cheers fellas...

Round 2

33. Kansas City: Dalvin Cook, RB
34. San Francisco: Myles Garrett, DE
35. Green Bay: David Bakhtiari, OT
36. Tennessee: Cam Newton, QB

I mean, it's hard not to laugh at that draft in general. But, sure, submit a fantasy football draft as evidence. I am sure this will age well.

[1of10Charnatives]

On 6/4/2020 at 6:57 PM, jfra78 said:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2020-quarterback-rankings

PFF has him at 24, with 33% chance of being top 16 and 18% chance of being bottom 5.

 

 

Ranking him 24 based on past statistical performance seems like a reasonable position that could be defended or attacked but merits debate. Saying he has a 33% chance of being top 16 and an 18% chance of being bottom five, given all the changing variables that are going to affect his future performance (new team, new coaching staff, newly assembled coaching staff, HC coaching in the NFL for first time, high degree of roster turnover relative to last season, etc etc) starts to evoke the well known Twain line about their being 3 types of lies: "...lies, damn lies, and statistics."

*looks sideways at PFF and their statistical analysis regression voodoo.*