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BREAKING: Panthers sign CB Eli Apple

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onmyown Grand Master

onmyown

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really? Who fuging cares

i know he’ll give us more for that 1.2 mil than Gano Paradis or KK will

But this is a season for growing pains just sit back and relax before you give yourself a hernia with unrealistic expectations and flood the CH with bipolar reactions

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24 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The top paid player on a roster at any given position is typically their #1.  Now if you want to start averaging CB1 money, then yeah, $8M is about average.  It would be even higher if there wasn't 'x' number of salaries lower than that...regardless of the situation (rookie deals, prove-it deals, team rebuild, cap casualty etc..).  That's the reason I tried to stipulate not Franchise CB1s.  Those guys are the cornerstones/building blocks for the foreseeable future for those clubs.   Apple is looking like a one year rental.  That being said, he's going to be our top--#1 CB this year.

Well if your initial claim that he would make CB1 money simply meant that you think he'll be paid more than Donte Jackson's $1.2 million, then yeah I agree that is likely.

I know you weren't talking about true Franchise CB1s, which is why I put CB1s in the ~8 million range rather than $15-16 million.

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2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

We did this already and it failed.  You hurt others development by putting nothing but rookies on the field.. They get wrecked and lose confidence..

Exactly.  And for the people talking about creating competition, young guys shouldn't get put out there until they have proven to the coaching staff they are ready anymore than veterans getting the spot by default when a younger guy is looking better.

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Given where we are in the off-season and our short-term cap situation (we certainly shouldn't do anything to potentially hamstring us long-term in a season with this many unknowns), I think this is a tremendous signing.

Eli Apple is at worst a capable starting CB.  Prior to signing him, we only had 1 in Donte Jackson.

I hope maybe Troy Pride can be this guy in time, but it's too much of a risk in putting him out there Week 1 no matter what.

Besides potentially killing his confidence, it sends a bad message to the team.

I certainly don't have high hopes for this season, and I see no way this defense is dominant, but I also don't know that it will be an abomination either.

The 2019 Panthers defense was a trainwreck down the stretch.  It wouldn't take too surpass them.

And other than Kuechly (which is an incredible loss), this group may not be any worse.

A secondary of Jackson-Boston-Burris-Chinn-Apple has at least as much potential as last year, and maybe a lot more (and I do think we will see a lot of 3 safety looks).

Shaq and Whitehead can be decent at linebacker, and as a 3rd LB Jermaine Carter was ok.  This group is nowhere close to what we've had in the past, but they can be as good as many LB groups in the league.

The defensive line has a lot of question marks, but Burns-Brown-Short-Weatherly can be productive.  I think Gross-Matos has worlds of potential, and I'm excited to see Obada back as a true 4-3 end where he belongs.

So many things can happen in season.  Obviously, an incredible amount would have to go right for this group to be playoff worthy.  The offense is going to have to score a lot for us to compete.

But I'm ok with it.  For the first time in several years, regardless of the final record, I feel like we are building towards something.  

2 years from now (provided we find a franchise QB), we can be in a great spot to be a contender with a defense that is hopefully hitting their stride together.

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