Panthers alumni answer questions about Cam Newton

[hepcat]

24 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Eh, the issue is much more complex than simply the coaches didn't act fast enough. They can't force a player into having surgery. 

Also can’t overlook the fact Cam admitted he hid the injury from the team in “The truth about why I’m sidelined” video

[RenoCarolina]

13 hours ago, nosuchthingasapanther said:

i thought newton was always against surgery, and any delays were a result of him exhausting every option before going under the knife?

and since when does an athlete, or anyone for that matter, have to beg for surgery? don't they have the final say so as to what happens when they get injured?

Camfan, and not an expert.  But I recall the Panthers wanting him to come back to team after IR and Cam flying off to MN get a (3rd?) opinion.    Made sense on Cam's part, not wanting to come back to a dumpster fire and souring his total take on a new contract.  But I think from that moment Tepper wrote him off.

[kungfoodude]

57 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Also can’t overlook the fact Cam admitted he hid the injury from the team in “The truth about why I’m sidelined” video

Cam's whole career he has tended to play through injuries. He came into the league on a bum ankle that had to have surgery after a couple of seasons of "gutting it out" after continually re-injuring it.

He's leaned towards being too tough for his own good. That bill has to be paid eventually and age doesn't help your ability to heal.

He shares some of the blame for his current situation, as does the coaching staff for not doing the best thing for their franchise star all the time(when they did sometimes know he was hurt) and the front office does as well for not making it a priority to protect the franchise QB.

No one is blameless in the Cam Newton saga.

[hepcat]

25 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Cam's whole career he has tended to play through injuries. He came into the league on a bum ankle that had to have surgery after a couple of seasons of "gutting it out" after continually re-injuring it.

He's leaned towards being too tough for his own good. That bill has to be paid eventually and age doesn't help your ability to heal.

He shares some of the blame for his current situation, as does the coaching staff for not doing the best thing for their franchise star all the time(when they did sometimes know he was hurt) and the front office does as well for not making it a priority to protect the franchise QB.

No one is blameless in the Cam Newton saga.

No one is blameless, but some shoulder more blame than others, no pun intended.

No one forced Cam to play Week 1 of 2019 except himself. Cam also didn't need to release a very public video disclosing that he hid an injury from the team. That was awful PR optics for him and for the team. He could have, and probably should have, handled that situation behind closed doors. Now teams not only have to weigh the injury risk with Cam, they have to weigh if he's being honest with them too. The Panthers decided the risk was too much.

[panthers55]

13 hours ago, saX man said:

I guess the small positive is that we got rid of a lot of the people who made the poor decisions around him the past 2-3 years.  Though, the new regime did flub the release. 

Harper makes a very interesting point.  We were a team with a QB that the offense should have been curated around (done poorly with Shula) and now we're heading to promising system with a QB that works within it.  Question is, how good can the offense Brady brings in turn it up?

The offense has been tailored around Newton since Chud was here. I think that is a major reason Cam still isn't signed. Teams want to finds guys who fit their current system not change the system to fit the QB they are bringing in. They aren't willing to spend a lot not knowing how he would adapt to a different system.

[NJPanthers12]

10 hours ago, onmyown said:

I like Cole’s answers. It’s a business, people get cut and it’s not pretty. You’re a grown ass man. You signed a contract (like all the other QBs he mentioned) that allowed your company to do this, gave them the right. They don’t owe you anything, why try to come back around about it? They decided to go a new direction. Where’s all this being owed something when these players go chase the money taking fat contracts and not standing by the team that drafted them? Neither is owed a happy ending.

Cam wasn’t done wrong, the checks he gets from the Panther’s will clear and that’s all that matter, it’s a business and when you start having employees believed they’re owed something at the cost of the business as a whole its pathetic, selfish and immature.

 

 

Anyone that doesn’t think cam was done wrong is either a blind panthers homer or a cam hater. It isn’t even debatable. The franchise screwed over its best QB in franchise history.

side note. Can the Charlotte media please get away from including frank Garcia in in panthers stuff. He was accused by multiple women for domestic violence. He was also the dumbest sports Talk radio host in the country. He brings absolutely no value to anything he does in the media.

[rico6]

11 hours ago, RASTAN66 said:

Garcia, Walls & Cole.

Lmfao

[Bytes]

40 minutes ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Anyone that doesn’t think cam was done wrong is either a blind panthers homer or a cam hater. It isn’t even debatable. The franchise screwed over its best QB in franchise history.

side note. Can the Charlotte media please get away from including frank Garcia in in panthers stuff. He was accused by multiple women for domestic violence. He was also the dumbest sports Talk radio host in the country. He brings absolutely no value to anything he does in the media.

Prior to his release, did Cam ever state the organization did him wrong? Did he ever complain about the scheme? Did he ever say they mishandled his injury a la Trent Williams? 

[Wyank]

11 minutes ago, Bytes said:

Prior to his release, did Cam ever state the organization did him wrong? Did he ever complain about the scheme? Did he ever say they mishandled his injury a la Trent Williams? 

Because he didn't speak out does that mean the Panthers didnt mess up? Even if he doesnt think the Panthers mishandled his injuries, does that actually mean they didnt?

[thefuzz]

56 minutes ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Anyone that doesn’t think cam was done wrong is either a blind panthers homer or a cam hater. It isn’t even debatable. The franchise screwed over its best QB in franchise history.

side note. Can the Charlotte media please get away from including frank Garcia in in panthers stuff. He was accused by multiple women for domestic violence. He was also the dumbest sports Talk radio host in the country. He brings absolutely no value to anything he does in the media.

Cam's release wasn't handled as well as it should have been, but I see nothing that the Panthers did that actually "screwed him over", if someone can explain that to me, I would be all ears.

I have asked another poster to explain this as well, and he ran off.

Please break down specifics, dates, surgeries, injuries, contracts, dead money, Covid, etc....that all needs to be in there.

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, Wyank said:

Because he didn't speak out does that mean the Panthers didnt mess up? Even if he doesnt think the Panthers mishandled his injuries, does that actually mean they didnt?

The same people saying "well, Cam didn't say anything about it!" are the same people who would crucify him for not being a team player if he did. Minds are made up. Mental gymnastics will continue to justify opinions.

I'm sure if we and he could have a redo of how the injuries were handled, both sides would probably take it. But, it is what it is at this point. Just gotta hope we can land another franchise QB now and not flounder for years looking for one like a lot of teams do and like we have in the past.

[rico6]

13 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Cam's release wasn't handled as well as it should have been, but I see nothing that the Panthers did that actually "screwed him over", if someone can explain that to me, I would be all ears.

I have asked another poster to explain this as well, and he ran off.

Please break down specifics, dates, surgeries, injuries, contracts, dead money, Covid, etc....that all needs to be in there.

Man, if you don’t think Cam getting cut in the middle of the biggest US health pandemic in history isn’t being “screwed” then what’s the fuging point to bring all the other “specifics” ?

 

[pantherclaw]

Y'all eat anything. 

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, rico6 said:

Man, if you don’t think Cam getting cut in the middle of the biggest US health pandemic in history isn’t being “screwed” then what’s the fuging point to bring all the other “specifics” ?

 

There has to be specifics....did every other player that got cut this offseason get "screwed" by their former teams?

Do you know how injury settlements work?

Did you breakdown the contract and how much dead cap was there vs. what we would owe him this year?

Or is all of this just emotion?