Cam is the only QB left unsigned.

[stirs]

You guys cannot come to grips with Cams injury

[Mr. Scot]

25 minutes ago, Wolfcop said:

He is better off taking whatever job he can get. Not sure Cam is the QB you want to sign off the street to come in and be plug and play. 

Jim Trotter said something similar. Specifically, that Newton isn't seen as a guy you can just plug into any system. You have to put in some effort to tailor things to his skill set.

Nobody's gonna do that for a backup. So with that in mind, it might be wise for Newton to sign somewhere soon so that he can get in as many reps as possible and learn that team's offense.

But then if he does that, he also limits his options. And given how his luck has been lately it'd be no shock if somebody got injured and a starting job opened up on one team right after he signed with another.

His situation definitely sucks.

[QueensKing]

9 minutes ago, onmyown said:

No he’ll dance around and bullshit about it until someone comes around and doesn’t and because they don’t it will prove his point, then he’ll complain more about how people bullshit lol

Answer my question, give me just one example of it happening to a similarly situated player and you kill my argument.  You can't.  In any sport.  Do it and prove me wrong.  Attack me all you want, but you should really be attacking my argument. 

[LinvilleGorge]

I swear, some of y'all would try politicize the sky being blue and water being wet.

[QueensKing]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I swear, some of y'all would try politicize the sky being blue and water being wet.

Hey bud, racism isn't political... unfortunately you've been conditioned to believe that.  

[nogoodbum]

Question for someone with REAL knowledge on NFL contracts, Does it make a difference to a players contract and/or salary cap based on date of signing? Does it make difference if a player is on roster at start of season or 2 weeks in?

[AggieLean]

24 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Kap was offered a deal but his ego turned it down. Plus he’s awful, and comparing that fact to his ‘reality’, no one will sign him. A lot of players signed for back up contracts not just Winston. The Panthers just signed Teddy for 20+ mil. Mahomes...Dak...Wilson...Jackson don’t exactly have that appearance you talk about...yet they’re the future of the NFL and getting crazy money....it’s almost as if there is more to it hmmm.

Wonder how all this can be true if your very shallow theory is correct? You’re completely dismissing Cam has serious injury concerns (this is huge), a unique personality that probably won’t mesh well as a back up, an ego as well that until recently wouldn’t accept a back up deal...see these are the reasons that actually matter.

See these are rational reasons. Lots of them. Multiple. These are also even more reasons, lots of them, and facts that point to the contrary of your theory.  But sure, stick with your one, single reason as the truth in your delusional world where everyone is wrong and full of bs.

Yet, you had no problem with saying CMC was disliked by certain members of the board due to his race.

Hmmm the double standards

[QueensKing]

21 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Kap was offered a deal but his ego turned it down. Plus he’s awful, and comparing that fact to his ‘reality’, no one will sign him. A lot of players signed for back up contracts not just Winston. The Panthers just signed Teddy for 20+ mil. Mahomes...Dak...Wilson...Jackson don’t exactly have that appearance you talk about...yet they’re the future of the NFL and getting crazy money....it’s almost as if there is more to it hmmm.

Wonder how all this can be true if your very shallow theory is correct? You’re completely dismissing Cam has serious injury concerns (this is huge), a unique personality that probably won’t mesh well as a back up, an ego as well that until recently wouldn’t accept a back up deal...see these are the reasons that actually matter.

See these are rational reasons. Lots of them. Multiple. These are also even more reasons, lots of them, and facts that point to the contrary of your theory.  But sure, stick with your one, single reason as the truth in your delusional world where everyone is wrong and full of bs.

You could easily kill my argument by naming a similarly situated player who had trouble getting signed.  You've created your own argument that has nothing to do with what I've stated.  Address my point.  It's funny how quickly you've come to disclaim my argument but in the years of the existence of the NFL you cannot dispute what I've stated.  Do it, it should be simple if your reasoning is sound. 

[LinvilleGorge]

knock it off @QueensKing

This is Tinderbox BS. Take it there.

[QueensKing]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

knock it off @QueensKing

This is Tinderbox BS. Take it there.

Even if you mute it the curse is there.  

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, QueensKing said:

Even if you mute it the curse is there.  

The thing is, we have a forum specifically to discuss such topics. That's all I'm asking. Take it to the correct place.

[QueensKing]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The thing is, we have a forum specifically to discuss such topics. That's all I'm asking. Take it to the correct place.

"Cam is the only QB left unsigned"

Poster provides legitimate reasoning as to why QB is signed.

Someone either disagrees or the reasoning makes her/him uncomfortable and says it's "tinderbox" material. 

Sorry but you're wrong.  Sweeping it to the tinderbox is a simple way for you to dismiss it, but I'd argue that for the people who deal with this very issue in their own workplaces and communities it's more than just fair play it's reality that has been well documented even within the NFL (Rooney Rule ring a bell??) and there are so many parallels.  Just because you don't agree or understand doesn't mean its' legit, but sure throw it in the tinderbox. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, QueensKing said:

"Cam is the only QB left unsigned"

Poster provides legitimate reasoning as to why QB is signed.

Someone either disagrees or the reasoning makes her/him uncomfortable and says it's "tinderbox" material. 

Sorry but you're wrong.  Sweeping it to the tinderbox is a simple way for you to dismiss it, but I'd argue that for the people who deal with this very issue in their own workplaces and communities it's more than just fair play it's reality that has been well documented even within the NFL (Rooney Rule ring a bell??) and there are so many parallels.  Just because you don't agree or understand doesn't mean its' legit, but sure throw it in the tinderbox. 

We have the Tinderbox specifically for these topics to keep them from derailing threads in this forum. For the last time, if you want to continue this line of discussion, take it to the appropriate forum.

[Mr. Scot]

33 minutes ago, QueensKing said:

Answer my question, give me just one example of it happening to a similarly situated player and you kill my argument.  You can't.  In any sport.  Do it and prove me wrong.  Attack me all you want, but you should really be attacking my argument. 

Newton's definitely not the only guy to face dwindling prospects in the twilight of their career.

Troy Aikman is a pretty good example. After getting released by the Cowboys, he still wanted to play but few believed he was healthy enough. He got an offer from the Eagles after Donovan McNabb got injured but turned it down because it would have been temporary.

He tried to catch on with Norv Turner's Chargers the following year but they passed on him. Granted, Aikman was a little older than Newton at the time, but he was also significantly more successful.

Jay Cutler was another guy who tried to catch on after getting cut by his last team (Miami) but Cutler made it clear he was only interested in a starting job. Nobody had a starting spot open. That's arguably a pretty close mirror to Newton, but with the difference being that Newton has now said he'll take a backup job. McNabb was a guy who needed the right system too, just a different one from Newton.

You could also cite Donovan McNabb. Despite having had a stellar career, McNabb found himself out in the cold after a mediocre at best season in Washington and time spent in Minnesota that hardly anybody even remembers. He expressed interest in four or five different teams after that. None of them expressed interest back (heck, one chose Jake Delhomme instead).

There are others, even more if you look at positions other than quarterback.

Like I've said before, relatively few NFL players have happy endings (even guys who have Hall of Fame careers).