Rhule's off-season approach...

[davos]

Awesome stuff from Rhule. Cheers on that.

Pertaining to Teddy--From what I saw last year, he still has really nice placement on his mid-range throws and just knows how to shuffle in the pocket with that footwork.  He plays calm, loose, and with a quiet confidence.   If he was in 16, he would've been tracking for a 28 TD, 8 INT season with 3,900 yards so yes, he's grown from his first two seasons where he looked meh, had low numbers, along with a bad supporting cast without AP year one.  

I'm not going over the moon for him but we could be sneaky good and I wouldn't be all that mad.  If you're building for long term success, it's about curating a good environment and foundation...so if that foundations pulls off more wins than expected, it's a reason to be optimistic rather than pessimistic that we're not getting a top-5 pick.  Considering where recent success stories are coming from, I'm fine in the pick 5-18 range if that is what happens. 

There is absolutely no reason to be anxious about doing better than expected.  It will mean we found good coaches in Brady and Rhule.  Which is arguably the biggest reason for team success than anything (The most critical thing IMO beyond any QB or particular players).  If we found the right coaching crew, that's such a huge deal. 

Also, if Teddy is more mediocre/bleh, then he has a totally manageable contract because we're not going to be scratching for some huge QB signing, it will be targeting a rookie (Unless someone like Watson becomes available).  I can see plenty of QBs I'd be thrilled about next year.   

[mc52beast]

On 5/18/2020 at 9:34 AM, LegioX said:

Ravens won a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco

And a pretty decent defense... something the Panthers aren’t even close to having right now.

And Joe played out of his mind in the playoffs, not comparable to his overall stats

[MMA]

13 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Why haven't you called Rhule and Brady and convinced them of your drivel?

I have. Apparently, it’s Tepper’s call. 

[Smithers]

On 5/18/2020 at 9:34 AM, LegioX said:

Ravens won a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco

And Dilfer 

[Smithers]

12 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There was rampant media speculation that Teddy could get up to $30M per year... because the NFL LOVES to overpay mediocre QBs. He didn't get anywhere close to that though. That's not because Tepper is such a shrewd negotiator, it's because no one else was offering him more. The Saints let him walk and paid a special teamer big bucks because they valued the special teamer more.

Teddy almost signed with the Dolphins last off-season...and that was before he went 5-0 filling in for Brees.  There would have been suitors no doubt.  The Bears, Colts, Chargers, etc surely all had some interest.  
 

And the Saints didn’t value Hill more...they could only afford Hill.  They knew they didn’t have the cap space to sign Teddy to what he would command on the open market, so they went with the much cheaper option (who by the way was a restricted FA with an easily determined salary that Hill couldn’t negotiate).  
 

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Teddy almost signed with the Dolphins last off-season...and that was before he went 5-0 filling in for Brees.  There would have been suitors no doubt.  The Bears, Colts, Chargers, etc surely all had some interest.  
 

And the Saints didn’t value Hill more...they could only afford Hill.  They knew they didn’t have the cap space to sign Teddy to what he would command on the open market, so they went with the much cheaper option (who by the way was a restricted FA with an easily determined salary that Hill couldn’t negotiate).  
 

If the Saints saw Bridgewater as Brees' legit heir, they could've absolutely offered him a contract that would've paid him big money yet kept this year's cap hit low.

[*FreeFua*]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If the Saints saw Bridgewater as Brees' legit heir, they could've absolutely offered him a contract that would've paid him big money yet kept this year's cap hit low.

Yep that would’ve been a great use of their limited cap space moving forward smh...

It’s no guarantee Brees retires after this year so it makes no sense for either party to commit to each other for longer than a year. 

Again, this is something that’s been explained to you before. You continue to repeat the same things over and over again in every single thread. Probably time you get some new material.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Yep that would’ve been a great use of their limited cap space moving forward smh...

It’s no guarantee Brees retires after this year so it makes no sense for either party to commit to each other for longer than a year. 

Again, this is something that’s been explained to you before. You continue to repeat the same things over and over again in every single thread. Probably time you get some new material.

I'm simply saying that it was very possible in terms of cap management. You try to read way too much into my comments. Also, you mad.

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm simply saying that it was very possible in terms of cap management. You try to read way too much into my comments. Also, you mad.

Well sure, but it still doesn’t make sense from a use of cap space and their inability to guarantee a starting job made signing him or anyone beyond one year hard to justify. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Well sure, but it still doesn’t make sense from a use of cap space and their inability to guarantee a starting job made signing him or anyone beyond one year hard to justify. 

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/editorial-opinion/payton-says-drew-brees-final-season

[*FreeFua*]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/editorial-opinion/payton-says-drew-brees-final-season

And if they lose in heartbreaking fashion again? I’ll believe it when I see him actually retire. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

And if they lose in heartbreaking fashion again? I’ll believe it when I see him actually retire. 

Just saying, if they believe this is Brees' final season and they saw Bridgewater as a viable long-term heir they would've tried to workout a contract. Per all reports I've seen, that was never even considered by them. 

[Matt62881]

On 5/18/2020 at 7:33 AM, musicman said:

RHULE 3:

I love the way Rhule thinks and everything he says, I truly believe we landed the best coach we could have period. The way he talks about offensive personnel needing to learn defense and vice versa is so on point. I give us one down year at most and this team is gonna be perrineal. Thanks for posting this dude, I read it all and it was a great way to delve into the mind of our new coach and to see what to expect. He is a coach that can do more with less! 

[Smithers]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If the Saints saw Bridgewater as Brees' legit heir, they could've absolutely offered him a contract that would've paid him big money yet kept this year's cap hit low.

With what cap space?  Besides...Teddy wasn’t riding the pine for another season.  He wanted to start again, and more than one team was willing to give him that opportunity.