Panthers #4 in the NFL at identifying 1st-round talent

[Icege]

15 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

shaq, kelvin and star are "hits"?   What the hell?

Shaq and Star, yes.

Kelvin is definitely debatable though.

[DeAngelo Beason]

Looking at this list you really see just how incredibly horrible of a talent evaluator Gettleman is.

[thefuzz]

39 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Looking at this list you really see just how incredibly horrible of a talent evaluator Gettleman is.

Or you could look at it as only having to pick in the top 10 once....

 

[panther4life]

1 hour ago, thefuzz said:

Or you could look at it as only having to pick in the top 10 once....

 

He’s picked in the top 6 3 times in a row now. 
 

His last year with Panthers picked 8th. 
 
First year with Giants walked into a top 5 pick. 2 years later he’s still picking in the top 6. 
 

Has signed some of the worst  free contracts league wide since 2016. 

Gettleman sucks. Point blank. 

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, panther4life said:

He’s picked in the top 6 3 times in a row now. 
 

His last year with Panthers picked 8th. 
 
First year with Giants walked into a top 5 pick. 2 years later he’s still picking in the top 6. 
 

Has signed some of the worst  free contracts league wide since 2016. 

Gettleman sucks. Point blank. 

I don't care what he's done in NY, this is a Panthers forum if I'm not mistaken?

I also don't care how good or bad of a GM DG is now, he isn't with us any longer...that wasn't a post praising DG...it was a post slamming Marty Hurney for picking in the top ten 4 times during his time here...with one of them being the number 1 overall pick.

[MadHatter]

17 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

...and yet they still can't build a winning organization.

More about coaching 

[panther4life]

11 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I don't care what he's done in NY, this is a Panthers forum if I'm not mistaken?

I also don't care how good or bad of a GM DG is now, he isn't with us any longer...that wasn't a post praising DG...it was a post slamming Marty Hurney for picking in the top ten 4 times during his time here...with one of them being the number 1 overall pick.

Your reply was in regard to a post that said Gettleman “ is a horrible talent evaluator”.

In regards to Hurney picking top 10, 4 times. He inherited the 2 pick and a team that went 1-15.  Next year he had the the 8th pick after improving us to a 7-9 record, which was followed by a season where we Lost the Super Bowl by 3 points. 
 

The next time he picked top 10 was after Richardson decided he wanted to tank 2010 and stuck us with a lame duck coach for the year.

And yes we picked top 10 again this year because our franchise QB went down. 
 

He’s constructed 12 rosters. The result of those rosters was picking inside the top 10 twice, one was in his second year after taking over a 1-15 team and the other after the franchise QB went down for the year. 
 

 

[thefuzz]

24 minutes ago, panther4life said:

Your reply was in regard to a post that said Gettleman “ is a horrible talent evaluator”.

In regards to Hurney picking top 10, 4 times. He inherited the 2 pick and a team that went 1-15.  Next year he had the the 8th pick after improving us to a 7-9 record, which was followed by a season where we Lost the Super Bowl by 3 points. 
 

The next time he picked top 10 was after Richardson decided he wanted to tank 2010 and stuck us with a lame duck coach for the year.

And yes we picked top 10 again this year because our franchise QB went down. 
 

He’s constructed 12 rosters. The result of those rosters was picking inside the top 10 twice, one was in his second year after taking over a 1-15 team and the other after the franchise QB went down for the year. 
 

 

When people bring up Hurney...there are always excuses....always.

End of the day, we were once again picking in the top 10 with him in charge, I'm not going to mince words.

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Jon Snow]

38 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

More about coaching 

No, it's all about management.  Keep blaming the coaches all you want but who hires the coaches?  You guys are hilarious the way you defend mediocrity in this organization.  Nothing will change as long as fans accept the poo show you see year in and year out.  I will be here to laugh at all of you when you make excuses as to why it's Rhules fault that Hurney's All-pro draft picks do not work out.   It's the same drivel every year, Hurney is killing it they say, only to come on here after another failed season to blame everyone but the architect of the mess.  I'm done pointing out the idiocy on here.  This place has gone to poo, it has a collective IQ of a flea.    

 

[panther4life]

12 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

When people bring up Hurney...there are always excuses....always.

End of the day, we were once again picking in the top 10 with him in charge, I'm not going to mince words.

I don't have a problem with people disliking Hurney and citing valid reasons.You however are trying to put a spin on things.

For example, how can Hurney be at fault for picking inside the top 10 in his first year on the job??

Another example is most Hurney haters who double as Gettleman worshipers, like to to act like the 7 win team who made the playoffs because our division was horrible was some miraculous feat. 

 

[TheSpecialJuan]

[rippadonn]

H2.0 is kicking H1.0's ars. I've always given Marty his propers but I've always been pissed that he never drafted a first round DT. He finally did it and I'm really really liking his drafts since returning. Aside from QB I love the direction he's taking the team with even more Hurney guys who will be special.

I was born into Bear fandom. I'm blessed to have been a day one Panthers fan living here in Charlotte. The success the Panthers have had is waaaaaay more than a large market Bears team could muster in 25yrs. The Panthers are a good/great franchise despite its market. That's why Marty was retained.

Count your blessings. Don't settle for less. Demand MORE from Tepper and hold him accountable.

[jfra78]

 

3 hours ago, thefuzz said:

When people bring up Hurney...there are always excuses....always.

End of the day, we were once again picking in the top 10 with him in charge, I'm not going to mince words.

Facts not excuses.