For the anti Curtis Samuel panther fans

[Mister]

   Joe Brady is switching to 4 and 5 receiver sets and phasing out the two tight end sets we’ve seen over the past decade (perfect fit because Thomas fits that Scheme but we won’t necessarily rely on him manhertz and devalve) and we have a nice receiver room. Curtis Samuel is the #3 receiver on the team if not the number 2, he could be devastating to opposing D coming out of the slot. Seth Roberts, Pharoh Cooper aren’t even close to Curtis and might not even make the team imo. My guess is he’s 3rd at worst 4th in targets which isn’t bad considering the amount of receiving players Brady will use in his scheme  .Samuel is just beginning to perform like the wide receiver we hoped that he would blossom into. The ex-running back makes spectacular catch after spectacular catch while having the potential to be one of the more elusive RAC receivers in the NFL (just watch Philly or NYG game). He drops some balls and isn’t an elite route runner. A new coaching staff can absolutely clean up his routes and add new ways to get him the ball (designed runs, additional route combinations) If anyone can do it Joe Brady can and should. If the panthers do turn it around it will probably be in 2-3 seasons from now, and in that time Samuels contract will expire. Samuel has not proved that he deserves a mega contract after injury riddled seasons to begin his career. The panthers should resign Samuel to a new deal before this season in case he does emerge as a legitimate receiver in the prime of their career. Trading him will likely only return a round 2+ draft pick at most on account of the lack of time remaining on his rookie deal. Resign him now for a team friendly deal that will keep him under contract through his prime. Him Dj and Robby is something to work with for the foreseeable future, we can’t just blow it up with how heavily we’ve invested at that position including our misses funchess kelvin Bejamin and Armanti Edwards (a few that come to mind... god I hate Dwayne Jarrett). And when Anderson’s 3 year deal ends, let him be the one to go. Season ticket holder since 96 Keep pounding P.s. Fair play to Matt and Hurney for an excellent draft, Phil Snow should be excited to get to work! And no I don’t think you pay Logan Ryan 9 mil for him to come play 8-8 (at best) football .Sure I’m just giving my opinion on the situation. I don’t want him to go. I do have a weird feeling since he unfollowed the team on social media

[mrcompletely11]

Tldr

[LinvilleGorge]

If we constantly run four and five wide sets, I set the over/under on Bridgewater to IR at 4.5 games.

[Soul Rebel]

Are there "Anti-Samuel" fans on here??

IMO, it's not a lack of talent with Samuel, rather how ineffectively he was utilized by our previous coaching staff. Samuel could be our 2nd best weapon after CMC this year in Brady's system.

[stbugs]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we constantly run four and five wide sets, I set the over/under on Bridgewater to IR at 4.5 games.

Anything that gets us back in the race for a real franchise QB is fine for me. We enjoyed having Cam until his body fell apart, but a QB who throws for 3000 and 14 TDs and doesn’t run isn’t getting us to the promised land.

[Waldo]

7 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Anything that gets us back in the race for a real franchise QB is fine for me. We enjoyed having Cam until his body fell apart, but a QB who throws for 3000 and 14 TDs and doesn’t run isn’t getting us to the promised land.

Not without an epic D and CMC running his body into retirement.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Not without an epic D and CMC running his body into retirement.

Having the former would be shocking his season. Unfortunately, it won't shock me if we resort to the latter after placeholder Teddy fails to light a fire under the offense. I just hope that with a new staff they won't feel the urgency to run CMC into the dirt in a desperate effort to save their job or get the job. I hope to see his workload dialed back significantly when/if we're out of contention.

[jfra78]

The 4 and 5 wr sets will come out of a 1 HB 1 TE formation with McCaffery or Thomas or both going out wide.  

[Bytes]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Having the former would be shocking his season. Unfortunately, it won't shock me if we resort to the latter after placeholder Teddy fails to light a fire under the offense. I just hope that with a new staff they won't feel the urgency to run CMC into the dirt in a desperate effort to save their job or get the job. I hope to see his workload dialed back significantly when/if we're out of contention.

Unfortunately I think that will be the case. For every in-completion on 1st and 10, expect a run or some type of wheel route to CMC. And if that is out of a 3+ WR set , he may get yardage but there will be a physical price. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Bytes said:

Unfortunately I think that will be the case. For every in-completion on 1st and 10, expect a run or some type of wheel route to CMC. And if that is out of a 3+ WR set , he may get yardage but there will be a physical price. 

I think Rhule and company are going to get three years to prove "the process" can work at the NFL level. You shouldn't make a bold hire like this if you're not going to give it time to work.

[jfra78]

9 minutes ago, Bytes said:

Unfortunately I think that will be the case. For every in-completion on 1st and 10, expect a run or some type of wheel route to CMC. And if that is out of a 3+ WR set , he may get yardage but there will be a physical price. 

I dont think there will be many incompletions on 1st down in this offense.  

[Waldo]

34 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Having the former would be shocking his season. Unfortunately, it won't shock me if we resort to the latter after placeholder Teddy fails to light a fire under the offense. I just hope that with a new staff they won't feel the urgency to run CMC into the dirt in a desperate effort to save their job or get the job. I hope to see his workload dialed back significantly when/if we're out of contention.

Player management is not something I trust yet due to no facts but I am hopeful. I don't see how job security is an issue this year and likely next year. It would have to go terrible sideways for that to be an issue this year. I expect the D will get blown out and grow as the year goes on. That would put more on Ted than CMC I would guess.

[Mister]

33 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

The 4 and 5 wr sets will come out of a 1 HB 1 TE formation with McCaffery or Thomas or both going out wide.  

No it will be 3 wr 

[bababoey]

4 and 5 wide does not mean 4 or 5 wr.  There is a difference in personel groups and formations.  5 wide usually mean 11 personal which is 3 wr 1 te and 1rb.