Rumor: Panthers Interested in Acquiring Haason Reddick

[Drk89Wng]

12 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

He has a $4.2 cap hit this year so the smart play would be to be patient wait until the Cardinals cut him before or after training camp. 

If they trade for him he will most likely restructure for Rhule. I cant see us giving up more than a 5th or 6th for him.

[jimmyclausenshalloffamebust]

2 hours ago, Drk89Wng said:

TF how he get to post and I been waiting weeks lol

Ha, well I’ve been a reader since 2011 and member since 2017. I just never post because I sit next to my boss’ boss at work and he always has his door open. Now I can check my phone at work.

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, Drk89Wng said:

If they trade for him he will most likely restructure for Rhule. I cant see us giving up more than a 5th or 6th for him.

He is on his rookie deal. He won't be restructuring.

[PantherPhann89]

10 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Not an invalid point but the history of college coaches doing the same has not been as kind. In fairness, Rhule seems to be a lot less invested in his old players than say, Chip Kelly or Steve Spurrier were.

True, but history, in this regard, gives us nothing more than an educated guess. A guess at which we chose to be positive or negative. As for me, I chose to be positive until I see a reason not to be. This isn't going to be an easy process by any means. We must take the good with the bad. Rhule is labeled as a teacher and builder. Let's give him the chance to teach our players his system and build our program...

[MMA]

Hurry up and trade our 1st round pick next year that we’re going to lose bc of Sean Payton for Reddick now. Just kidding but do hurry up and get it done. I’m tired of seeing rumors. 

[Peon Awesome]

17 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

He has a $4.2 cap hit this year so the smart play would be to be patient wait until the Cardinals cut him before or after training camp. 

 

5 hours ago, Drk89Wng said:

If they trade for him he will most likely restructure for Rhule. I cant see us giving up more than a 5th or 6th for him.

There seems to be a lot of confusion about Redick's contract. He has a fully guaranteed rookie contract. He won't be cut because Arizona wouldn't save a dime in that scenario. If they trade him, the team acquiring him is responsible for his guaranteed base salary and Arizona only has to account for the prorated portion of his signing bonus. So he'll either play out his rookie contract in Arizona or be traded. That's it. If he's not in their plans at all, it really incentivizes them to accept any trade they can get in order to save some money. If his contract was more onerous, that would be a situation where we could even extract draft capital from them but since its essentially $2 million for a former 1st round pick, offering a late round pick is reasonable.

There's no room to restructure/alter his rookie contract, not only because its fully guaranteed but also because he's in the last year. Restructuring typically involves converting salary into signing bonus to spread out the contract cap hit over multiple years. You can't do that in the final year since there are no future years to spread it out to. If the money was not guaranteed, he could accept a pay cut on his base salary with incentive pay, similar to what Watkins did for KC, but since it is guaranteed, that's not an option either. We could sign him to an extension to save money in 2020, but that doesn't seem wise without seeing how he fits in our scheme.

[Basbear]

This is where having great agent relationships is priceless. Teams are allowed talk with agents, Im sure zona has expressed their displeasure about Reddick. Get the skinny form the agents and make a plan. 

[KatsAzz]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/2001828/haason-reddick?fbclid=IwAR0GmD0ntAphIS9t1RmzpLXEEhobrBYXGHCVVfRmJ2VRnWIi68RxOZTB384

The Cardinals will not pick up Reddick's fifth-year option, Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com reports.

Reddick hasn't lived up to his draft capital as the No. 13 overall pick of the 2017 NFL Draft over the last three seasons in Arizona, and in 2019 he ultimately fell out of favor as a starter after Week 6.

The decision to pass on Reddick's fifth-year option sets him up to become a free agent in 2021, at which point the 25-year-old's demand on the open market will in large part come down to whether he's able to produce in 2020.

To Reddick's credit he hasn't yet missed a single game due to injury, but he's also never surpassed 80 tackles or four sacks in a single season. Still, his $4.3 million salary should secure him at least a rotational role in the Cardinals' linebacker corps for 2020.

Reddick posted 76 tackles (43 solo), six pass defenses, one sack and one fumble recovery in 16 contests during the 2019 campaign.

Reddick's final stat line is deceiving, as he didn't start after Week 6 and played more than 50 percent of the defensive snaps in just three of the final 10 games.

After losing his spot at inside linebacker to Joe Walker, Reddick eventually made the switch to the edge and recorded a measly nine tackles over the last six outings. Because Reddick has a cap hit of $4.3 million in 2020 -- all of which would be dead money in the event he's cut loose -- it behooves the Cardinals to find a role for him in which to thrive.

[Drk89Wng]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

He is on his rookie deal. He won't be restructuring.

Restructuring can go multiple ways, my intention was to insinuate a possible extension adding an extra year to stretch out the hit since it’s close to their budget already. 

[Drk89Wng]

7 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

 

There seems to be a lot of confusion about Redick's contract. He has a fully guaranteed rookie contract. He won't be cut because Arizona wouldn't save a dime in that scenario. If they trade him, the team acquiring him is responsible for his guaranteed base salary and Arizona only has to account for the prorated portion of his signing bonus. So he'll either play out his rookie contract in Arizona or be traded. That's it. If he's not in their plans at all, it really incentivizes them to accept any trade they can get in order to save some money. If his contract was more onerous, that would be a situation where we could even extract draft capital from them but since its essentially $2 million for a former 1st round pick, offering a late round pick is reasonable.

There's no room to restructure/alter his rookie contract, not only because its fully guaranteed but also because he's in the last year. Restructuring typically involves converting salary into signing bonus to spread out the contract cap hit over multiple years. You can't do that in the final year since there are no future years to spread it out to. If the money was not guaranteed, he could accept a pay cut on his base salary with incentive pay, similar to what Watkins did for KC, but since it is guaranteed, that's not an option either. We could sign him to an extension to save money in 2020, but that doesn't seem wise without seeing how he fits in our scheme.

You have way too much time on your hands to be this concerned to try to correct ideas in concern with something that hasn’t even happened. My thoughts of a restructuring were contingent on the amount left on the cap after rookie deals if it were to happen. An extension would’ve been a better wording but I chose extension because they’d be moving money from this year to next and adding some incentives to balance out to make it worth while to him if we went that route. 

[kungfoodude]

17 hours ago, Drk89Wng said:

Restructuring can go multiple ways, my intention was to insinuate a possible extension adding an extra year to stretch out the hit since it’s close to their budget already. 

You can't stretch out the hit. It is a rookie deal. That money is owed really regardless of the scenario. He will get paid what he is due next season, unless Arizona cuts him. Any trade scenario will be us paying him his fully guaranteed salary.

Any extension will either be a fifth year option(at a high price) or an actual contract extension which would still not impact the money he makes next season other than paying him more in terms of a signing bonus. 

I don't personally want to see us extend him without him playing here. We haven't committed to many of these signings and I think that is wise.

[RumHam]

conditional 7th, sign me up