Rumor: Panthers Interested in Acquiring Haason Reddick

[45catfan]

If we can get Reddick for a reasonable deal and develop him, he can fill TD's WLB role as this young defense grows together.  Whitehead is just a stop gap, but that's still a pretty solid LB corps this year.  If our corners can hold up, this defense won't be quite as bad as many were thinking.

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

So ya'll would risk having him cut and being picked up by another team? Instead of offering a 4th? Okay. I get it. lol

If they’re going to cut him in this scenario, why would we need to offer a 4th? A 7th round pick would suffice, unless you think they’d rather cut him for nothing.

[Peon Awesome]

1 hour ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

So ya'll would risk having him cut and being picked up by another team? Instead of offering a 4th? Okay. I get it. lol

Are we under the false assumption that they will either take a 4th or nothing? Why are we operating on non-existent hypotheticals? I have another idea: offer a conditional 6th as I said in my original post. Jesus, we would be competing against ourselves offering a 4th. That's the kind of moronic move people would rightly be able to pan Hurney for.

Let's review our possible outcomes with Redick. 

A) Redick redeems himself in Rhule/Snow's system, but he's only under a 1 year contract so we either have to give him a huge raise off 1 good year or lose him and be out our 4th round pick for just 1 year of service. At best maybe we get a 5th round comp pick out of it, which will be around 60 picks and 1 year later than the likely early 4th round pick we gave up for him (for reference our 4th was pick 113; the 5th round comp was 179). And the way we've been operating in free agency, there's a better chance than not we wouldn't end up with any comp pick for him because we would just cancel him out by signing someone else.

B) Redick continues to demonstrate he's a bust regardless of the system and we give up a 4th for nothing. Recall that our 4th round pick this year is in line to be our starting cornerback.

C) His play is somewhere in the middle, a borderline starter but more like quality depth. Kind of what you hope for in a 4th round pick. Except instead of the 4 years of near minimum salary we would pay our 4th round pick in 2021, we pay $2.3 million for 1 year of Redick.

Now tell me again, is that worth it?

[4Corners]

Reddick is a small school version of Isiah Simmons. 

[pantherj]

Sure give them a 7th rounder. Rhule scares me.

[pantherj]

Rhule is like a 4 year old in a room full of strangers who sees his parents and runs to them because he knows them.

[Icege]

3 hours ago, Chief Keek said:

I'd wait until he gets cut first. I wouldn't offer any more than a 7th rounder and bo-berry biscuit.

Maybe we can orchestrate a 3-team deal where your Panthers would get Reddick, Arizona would get your 7th and my thanks, and I get the BoBerry biscuit? 

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, stbugs said:

His 2020 salary wouldn’t be on their cap anymore. They’d save his 2020 salary $2.3M). There’s no way a team would have that on their cap if the player is traded. The only thing still on the cap is his signing bonus prorated through this year. 

I don't think you are right about that. I am pretty sure that is one of the unique things about those rookie contracts. Perhaps I read an incorrect source but I am pretty sure that is the case.

[pantherj]

Rhule: Marty give me a list of every single player who has ever played for me or any of my coaching staff.

Marty: Why?

Rhule: Because I'm scared and I don't know what I'm doing so we're going after guys I know no matter their talent.

Marty: I'm going to get fired again aren't I?

Rhule: Yep.

[RenoCarolina]

Nope, we need to save every possible 6th and 7th rounder to target Payton’s secret crushes. 
 

 

[PantherPhann89]

8 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Please don't let us get trade raped acquiring former Rhule guys. 

So it would be okay if we got trade raped by acquiring non Rhule guys?

[kungfoodude]

Just now, PantherPhann89 said:

So it would be okay if we got trade raped by acquiring non Rhule guys?

Not really, it just makes me more concerned for the future about him pursuing "safety blanket" guys.

[WarPanthers89]

5 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

There is nothing to this rumor. It started when Bill Barnwell wrote an article on ESPN in which he gave 1 player from each team that was in danger of being cut. Barnwell merely suggested Reddick would be cut now that the Cardinals drafted Isaiah Simmons to replace him. Barnwell believed Matt Rhule might be interested in a trade bc he used to coach him. 

 

[stbugs]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think you are right about that. I am pretty sure that is one of the unique things about those rookie contracts. Perhaps I read an incorrect source but I am pretty sure that is the case.

It makes no sense to trade someone if you have to pay their salary while on another team. According to Sportrac, Miami’s dead cap for Minkah was only the rest of his signing bonus they had prorated for 2019-2021. It didn’t include any of the salary Pittsburgh is paying. It was a deal for Pittsburgh aside from the pick because for 3 years they pay $6M and Miami had to pay $10.4M for 1 year because of the signing bonus.