KK Short

[jfra78]

2 minutes ago, MMA said:

Money is the least of my worries if Short actually play like he’s worth it. The dude has been trash for three years now and is getting paid for what he did in 2015. I know my football. I don’t need some kid telling me how to learn the game of football. Good night son 

LoL

[Drk89Wng]

26 minutes ago, MMA said:

Let’s try to figure who’s alt you are. 

Something is clearly wrong with you. You are legit trying to oppose everyone. You have little football knowledge just personal bias. FYI I’m not a castoff coming back. This is my first time on here, I’m not childish enough to consider doing something like that. 

[Drk89Wng]

22 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Thats your opinion that he "quit playing"

Facts show other wise.

This dude clearly hasn’t accepted he has aspergers, let him look foolish to the bottom feeders on this forum. 

[ncfan]

26 minutes ago, MMA said:

Money is the least of my worries if Short actually play like he’s worth it. The dude has been trash for three years now and is getting paid for what he did in 2015. I know my football. I don’t need some kid telling me how to learn the game of football. Good night son 

Dude hasnt been trash for 3 years

Dude didnt play last year

Played hurt the year before

And was one of the leagues best DTs the year before.

 

You're clearly trolling

You clearly havnt watched this team since 2015.

Go hop on whatever bandwagon youve been riding the back of the last 5 years..

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, Drk89Wng said:

Something is clearly wrong with you. You are legit trying to oppose everyone. You have little football knowledge just personal bias. FYI I’m not a castoff coming back. This is my first time on here, I’m not childish enough to consider doing something like that. 

But he is.  HE has been banned many times and comes back with a new name.  It doesnt take long to figure out who he is

[Drk89Wng]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

But he is.  HE has been banned many times and comes back with a new name.  It doesnt take long to figure out who he is

Interesting, I remember some guy a few years back around the Super Bowl season in here tarding it up and getting on everyone’s nerves. 

[MMA]

25 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

But he is.  HE has been banned many times and comes back with a new name.  It doesnt take long to figure out who he is

And I’m not trying to hide like the other guy. Is Drk89wng your alt? Using two accounts to attack me so that it look like someone else agrees with you? 

[jfra78]

2 minutes ago, MMA said:

And I’m not trying to hide like the other guy. Is Drk89wng your alt? Using two accounts to attack me so that it look like someone else agrees with you? 

Yea you got me

[MMA]

11 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Yea you got me

look at Short vs Tampa. El oh el. 
I’m always a step or two ahead of you. Can’t hide behind another alt and be a chicken. I don’t. 

[jfra78]

5 minutes ago, MMA said:

look at Short vs Tampa. El oh el. 
I’m always a step or two ahead of you. Can’t hide behind another alt and be a chicken. I don’t. 

One play where he slips, yea that proves your point.  

[onmyown]

I posted a while ago that KK, since his contract has played better than only 1 out of 10 DTs getting paid in the realm of his the average of his contract. He was close to another so we can say 2. If we just erase Donald (the anomaly highest paid and biggest production) and pretend he doesn’t exist we can say 3.

So being very generous, he’s better than 30% of other DTs making what he makes.

[OneBadCat]

I think the reality is that KK has underperformed at times as of late. But that’s probably a pretty common theme among lineman. They take the most abuse of any position. Plus he got a fat contract and slacked a bit. But the thing is when he’s on he’s still a great player. Still under contract. He’s definitely worth keeping and he’s a good veteran presence. He’s never been as good as Kris Jenkins but he’s the closest we’ve had since. 

[stbugs]

5 hours ago, ncfan said:

No reason to cut him

Let's see how he does now that he's healthy.

 

Oh and have a legitimate brute force beside him

$13M reasons to cut him. He had a mediocre 2018 and missed 2019. Do you think he'll be better than the 3 sacks in 2018?

We aren't making the playoffs no matter how good the draft was. The rookies aren't making a huge impact with no off-season and we still have a lot of holes. Spending an extra $13M to have Short on the team this year is a waste IMHO. Just like some of the guys we got rid of already weren't guys who fit the rebuild. Short is 100% in the don't fit a rebuild, so what's the point?

Also, no idea where the $10M savings number came from. His salary/roster bonus for 2020 is $13M. It's $14.5M in 2021. There is $17M in dead cap in 2020 and 2021, regardless if he's on the team or not. The only question is does he account for $17M in cap space this year and next or $30M.

[stbugs]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

One play where he slips, yea that proves your point.  

Slips is generous. He got bumped and knocked down.