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Jon Snow Grand Master

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6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that is a "shooting for the moon" projection. IMO, this is the least talented roster in the history of the franchise. 

It is at the moment and probably this coming season.  But there is a lot that will change before we get to the 2nd season under Rhule.  They are starting to build the defensive trenches this year so far.  I reserve the right to update my projection as time goes by.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think that is a "shooting for the moon" projection. IMO, this is the least talented roster in the history of the franchise. 

I'm generally a pretty optimistic person.  I feel we are heading in the right direction.  We should see improvement this year and contending for a playoff spot next season.  

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2 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I'm generally a pretty optimistic person.  I feel we are heading in the right direction.  We should see improvement this year and contending for a playoff spot next season.  

I would be pretty surprised if we are in any sort of playoff contention until Brees and Brady retire and potentially until Ryan is gone. We are a team currently constructed of rental guys on 1-3 year contracts. It will be a very long time before we can build a complete roster. 

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I would be pretty surprised if we are in any sort of playoff contention until Brees and Brady retire and potentially until Ryan is gone. We are a team currently constructed of rental guys on 1-3 year contracts. It will be a very long time before we can build a complete roster. 

We will have a ton of cap next year as well

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2 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

We will have a ton of cap next year as well

Yeah but building a team by blowing a shitload of cap room on free agents has a pretty terrible track record. IMO, we basically have two core players currently, Thompson and CMC. Both are at two of the most devalued positions in the NFL, so we need to build a real roster core eventually and that doesn't happen overnight. Moton could be one, DJ Moore could be one, Burns could be one. The rookies could be one. 

But, the rest of the roster is pretty ass. It's a lot of gambles and rentals. 

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1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

Not happy we didn’t get your player that you wanted or position of need addressed the way you thought?

well grow up. This isn’t a minor rebuild that will be fixed this year alone.

expect this to take up to 3 years! Fun stuff!

Which lent itself to making a Simmons pick...

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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It's is at the moment and probably this coming season.  But there is a lot that will change before we get to the 2nd season under Rhule.  They are starting to build the defensive trenches this year so far.  I reserve the right to update my projection as time goes by.

If you look around the league, most teams are constantly having 2 year turn-overs. Each year there is 40% roster turn-over no matter what. Im no Rhule fan, but his influence has already been felt form - Anderson, Whitehead, XFL TE, WR Roberts. Plus Im sure there will be a army of temple/Baylor players signed as UDFAs.. Just like Anderson they could choose to sign about anywhere and they picked carolina.

He gets a pass this year with 50 million in dead cap(thanks herniay), mass exodus on defensive, and 19 madness. Just like rookies, Im going to wait til the start of the 2nd off-season. 

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Which also lends itself toward a Simmons pick

The perfect time to go for it...

Simmons is at a devalued position and he is a guy that will only be elite depending on how he is utilized. Even if all of that were true, he probably would be outside his rookie deal before we are a competitive team. Not a great spot to be in.

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Simmons is at a devalued position and he is a guy that will only be elite depending on how he is utilized. Even if all of that were true, he probably would be outside his rookie deal before we are a competitive team. Not a great spot to be in.

Would have been fun to find out...well worth it with 3 yr plan and money to burn...

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Just now, heel31ok said:

Would have been fun to find out...well worth it with 3 yr plan and money to burn...

I think that "3 Year Plan" is likely going to be a joke. We are a team without most pieces, including a QB. That takes a long time to build through the draft. My big fear on Simmons was that he was productive here, had literally little to no impact on wins and losses(not uncommon for a LB) and then he just flat out left in free agency after his rookie deal was up. 

Brown is a player that has much higher potential to make an early impact and be a 8-10 year Panther, unlike Simmons. 

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