"Derrick Brown is not a sexy pick."

[TheMostInterestingMan]

16 minutes ago, t96 said:

It seems like he’s more of a Star type than a prime KK or Donald/Cox type. Not a terrible thing but a little high to pick a DL who isn’t an elite pass rusher. Maybe he can develop there quicker than Star though. Imagine if Star was dominating in the run game AND picking up 6+ sacks consistently. I think Brown has that potential but has a ways to go to develop as a pass disrupter. Will help our atrocious run D immediately however.

I’m still one of the biggest Star defenders around this place and always thought we should keep him over KK because I truly felt at the time Star was a big key to KKs success.

But Brown is much more explosive than Star was imo. He already shows more drive on tape to me than Star did in college. And Brown did it against superior competition 

[Waldo]

He could be in a year or two. The NFL isn't the NCAA and the olines will not be as easy as he has had it. Good NT that needs some work on this level but should have a solid year this year. I think the place where he can shine will come year 2 or 3 when he develops more strength and skills at pass rushing. Very good building piece, I just don't think we will see his best this year.

[Black&BlueBubba]

This draft grade sums it up.  I was one of those who didn’t know how to think after he underperformed at the combine.  But this review is also very true. 
 

Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn

Strengths: Pure power, disruptiveness, run-stopping

Weaknesses: Pass-rushing creativity, running around cones wearing shorts

If you want a defensive tackle who generates sacks by grabbing his blocker and tossing himat the quarterback, Derrick Brown is the prospect for you. 

If you want a defender who gets double-teamed but still generates sacks, or is fast and alert enough to run on the field late against a hurry-up offense and make an open-field tackle, or has the raw power to pick running backs up and pile-drive them to the turf, then Derrick Brown is your guy.

But if you are looking for awesome three-cone drill results, look elsewhere.

Brown posted a miserable 8.22-second three-cone time at the combine, the lowest among defensive tackles. His overall combine performance was poor, and it sparked a mini-controversy among the same draftniks who assumed last year that DK Metcalf would run his pass routes like a cement mixer when he reached the NFL because of his poor cone and shuttle results.

As an analytics ally, it's my duty to point out that cone drills can be useful measures of explosiveness and change-of-direction quickness, two critical assets at any position. It's also my duty to remind you that combine results should be used to verify or reevaluate a player's film, not as poison-tipped darts. Brown has the tape of a Pro Bowl defensive tackle; the examples above were just the tip of the iceberg. One weak set of Saturday night workouts in shorts should do nothing to negate that.

The Panthers run defense allowed 5.2 yards per rush last season, the highest figure in the league, despite the presence of Luke Kuechly (now retired), Gerald McCoy (now in Dallas) and Kawann Short (now not lonely anymore, because Brown is here). Rebuilding the front seven should be one of Matt Rhule’s top priorities. The Panthers have a lot of work to do this weekend, but they just selected the best player available, and they filled a need to boot. 

Grade: A

 

 

[joemac]

1 minute ago, t96 said:

As far as athleticism goes, Brown is the Berson to Donald’s Steve Smith.

LOL Riiiiiight.

[MMA]

24 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

I've seen many people, many who are even in support of the pick, say this.

I don't understand the mentality. What is more sexy than causing havoc straight up the middle causing Tom, Matt and Drew to soil their undies?!?

For me, that's as sexy as it gets!

Welcome aboard big nasty!

 

 

Give me Yetur or Epenesa in the 3rd. Come back with James Lynch in the 3rd. And I will call it sexy. 

[ForJimmy]

Maybe not sexy, kind of cute though?

[Jorgie]

These comps to Donald etc don’t do it for me 

I see him more as a mix between Fletcher Cox and Akiem Hicks

[Navy_football]

Big fan of Star and was praying that somehow the heart scare issue would let him fall to the Panthers. 

But Brown dominated guys that will be littered all over the NFL on Sundays. Really can't under rate the difference of SEC linemen. They aren't finesse guys. They're brawlers. And big bad Derrick Brown was the Brawlingest of all the brawlers!

[top dawg]

17 minutes ago, t96 said:

It seems like he’s more of a Star type than a prime KK or Donald/Cox type. Not a terrible thing but a little high to pick a DL who isn’t an elite pass rusher. Maybe he can develop there quicker than Star though. Imagine if Star was dominating in the run game AND picking up 6+ sacks consistently. I think Brown has that potential but has a ways to go to develop as a pass disrupter. Will help our atrocious run D immediately however.

This guy consistently played big in a big boy conference! The differences between them are kind of stark, especially when you consider the context!

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/derrick-brown-6.html

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/star-lotulelei-1.html

[ncfan]

 

[joemac]

37 minutes ago, ncfan said:

 

This is a great play,  but I am partial to the one where he legit tombstoned a RB ala the Undertaker.

[Mistuh Jones]

y'all are fuging exhausting 

[TheMaulClaw]

1 hour ago, t96 said:

It seems like he’s more of a Star type than a prime KK or Donald/Cox type. Not a terrible thing but a little high to pick a DL who isn’t an elite pass rusher. Maybe he can develop there quicker than Star though. Imagine if Star was dominating in the run game AND picking up 6+ sacks consistently. I think Brown has that potential but has a ways to go to develop as a pass disrupter. Will help our atrocious run D immediately however.

If I remember correctly the only reason Star didnt go in the top 3 is because he had a little heart issue.

[Sgt Schultz]

I was watching the picks on my phone.  Once Okuda was off the boards, I thought they had two can't-miss picks left and we all know who they are.  I preferred Brown over Simmons because I value the impact a strong DL can make.  They can take plays away without it ever showing up on their own part of the stat sheet. 

Everybody worries about what Brady will do in Tampa.  If you look at his history, disruptive DLs have made him look rather normal.  That is not at all unusual.

Then there is the subject of our 5.2 average rush against last year. 

Oh, and the last thing I want is Hurney trying to make sexy picks.  I'm sure he thought Clausen and Grier were sexy picks..  Stick to the script, Marty, you don't ad lib well.