Do you take Tua if he is there? Okudah over Simmons?

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

If he is there, the trade offers would be substantial, I am assuming.

Great! I would love a trade back with at least one addition pick in the first 3 rounds. I would pass on anyone at 7 to move back to 7 or 8 spots. Turn one pick of either a CB or DT into both a CB and DT.

[Mistuh Jones]

I'd take Tua if this were Ghost in the Shell and he got a new body 

[t96]

9 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Without the injury concerns, I definitely would. The injury concerns are very legit though and I don't know what to make of them.

Without the injury concerns, Tua is #1 and Burrow is #2.

[JARROD]

14 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Where would brown fit in that order?  To me Tua, Okudah, Brown, Simmons.  I'm not a big fan of picking Simmons for this team, he is really a weak side LB in the pros and we already have that in Shaq

Actually I would put Tua, Okudah, Wirfs, Simmons, Willis, Brown,..

im not that big on DT early... I’m just not.

i think there are plenty of options in the 2nd round.

i personally would love an OT,.. Okung is a rental and we need a long term viable option.

Simmons is worth more than DT also,.. he’s versatile and fast. 
 

I also like taking Okudah and then jumping up for the Green Arrow,.. Queen.

[Growl]

If Tagovailoa were on the board and this team passed on him then everyone should be fired.

[JARROD]

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

Without the injury concerns, Tua is #1 and Burrow is #2.

Absolutely. Tua was hands down the best player before the injury.

i believe you stick him behind Teddy, continue to get him stronger and better.

[JARROD]

3 minutes ago, Growl said:

If Tagovailoa were on the board and this team passed on him then everyone should be fired.

Oh yeh,..

[MHS831]

14 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

We should pick Simmons or Brown. But I want Okudah.

I could argue that CB is our biggest need.  Why should we not take Okudah?

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I could argue that CB is our biggest need.  Why should we not take Okudah?

No reason. If Okudah is there you run to the virtual podium and get a solid DT in the second 

[JARROD]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I could argue that CB is our biggest need.  Why should we not take Okudah?

We’ve like never picked a top 10 corner,..

I looked up Chris Gamble and he who won’t be named that should never have gotten out of prison,.. both high 20s picks.

the Saints defense changed drastically and immediately a couple of seasons ago with a top 10 corner

We need one and Okudah is a better choice than Simmons or Brown. Simmons you could argue if Snow is going to move him around and he turns out to be as smart as Eric Berry or Kuechly or something.

DT are great,.. Philly proved that a few seasons ago,. And Jax with others showed it was good to have a murderous middle.

still... top 10 DT don’t work out that often.

[NAS]

49 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Peter King doesn’t even have Love in the first round

ranks him as #50 prospect 

Do you think he's wrong?  I see Love as a 2nd round prospect

[MHS831]

Let's say Cam is the opposite of fragile at the position. 

Let's say Russell Wilson is pretty fragile due to his size.

Cam has led the league in hits during the time they were both starting---and Wilson is second.

What is the difference?  Wilson had a better OL, better coaching, and they did not have him running QB draws and options all the time.

If we were to draft Tua, would the protection be better and the play calling more aligned with the QB's longevity?  Yes.  So why was Cam so abused here?  His size makes him seem invincible, and we could skimp on the OL while investing in the D---it was a fool's errand, but Rivera was a self-serving moron.

My point, besides that about Rivera?  We draft Tua, build a stud OL, and teach him to throw the ball away and slide, and he should be fine.  All players are at risk of injury.  Even kickers.

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, JARROD said:

We’ve like never picked a top 10 corner,..

I looked up Chris Gamble and he who won’t be named that should never have gotten out of prison,.. both high 20s picks.

the Saints defense changed drastically and immediately a couple of seasons ago with a top 10 corner

We need one and Okudah is a better choice than Simmons or Brown. Simmons you could argue if Snow is going to move him around and he turns out to be as smart as Eric Berry or Kuechly or something.

DT are great,.. Philly proved that a few seasons ago,. And Jax with others showed it was good to have a murderous middle.

still... top 10 DT don’t work out that often.

Excellent post.  Sums my position up much better than I could.

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, NAS said:

Do you think he's wrong?  I see Love as a 2nd round prospect

I have seen flashes from him--but his supporting cast was pretty bad. I think he could be as low as 50, if that is fair.  I think he is a Patriot waiting to happen.