Do you take Tua if he is there? Okudah over Simmons?

[Rags]

Okudah absolutely. Without a second thought. Having a corner that can potentially erase one side of the field is one of the things every coach wishes they could have.

Simmons is a tossup. Tua has all the talent in the world, and he'd be hard to pass up even with the injury concerns. If you trust him, take him. If not take Simmons.

[NAS]

Peter King thinks we pass:  https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/20/nfl-mock-draft-2020-justin-herbert-tua-tagovailoa-fmia-peter-king/

7. Carolina—Derrick Brown, defensive tackle, Auburn

Man. Would the Panthers pass on Tua? I’m saying yes, because they’d have to take a $20-million cap hit to dump Teddy Bridgewater next offseason . . . and they really like Bridgewater. Plus, the Panthers have a slew of major needs on defense. They could take C.J. Henderson here and be happy because of a desperate corner need. But this team is dying on the interior defensive line, and all you have to do is watch a few Derrick Brown plays to know what a crucial addition he’d be. There’s one play where he man-against-boys an LSU guard and Joe Burrow is so flustered by the specter of Brown that he falls down before Brown makes it to him in the backfield.

So a few people in the league would say they’re a little down on Brown because of a so-so combine performance. But I don’t see that stopping a smart team in the top 10 from making him a defensive centerpiece for six or eight years. Panthers also love Isaiah Simmons.

[Eazy-E]

Okudah and Dugger are my dream 1-2 in this draft.

[Daddy_Uncle]

We will be in position for a great player and that's all I care about. I'm not going to over think or analyze who would be best. Doesn't matter. We need talent and we are for sure going to get it 

[JARROD]

My order Tua, Okudah, Simmons.

that order

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

Peter King thinks we pass:  https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/20/nfl-mock-draft-2020-justin-herbert-tua-tagovailoa-fmia-peter-king/

7. Carolina—Derrick Brown, defensive tackle, Auburn

Man. Would the Panthers pass on Tua? I’m saying yes, because they’d have to take a $20-million cap hit to dump Teddy Bridgewater next offseason . . . and they really like Bridgewater. Plus, the Panthers have a slew of major needs on defense. They could take C.J. Henderson here and be happy because of a desperate corner need. But this team is dying on the interior defensive line, and all you have to do is watch a few Derrick Brown plays to know what a crucial addition he’d be. There’s one play where he man-against-boys an LSU guard and Joe Burrow is so flustered by the specter of Brown that he falls down before Brown makes it to him in the backfield.

So a few people in the league would say they’re a little down on Brown because of a so-so combine performance. But I don’t see that stopping a smart team in the top 10 from making him a defensive centerpiece for six or eight years. Panthers also love Isaiah Simmons.

Brown wasnt available in this situation.  But say Tua is ready in 2021 to start, we could have Bridgewater sit behind him and still not invest much in QB position.  If we really wanted to move on from Bridgewater, it probably wouldnt be hard to trade him.

[Waldo]

I don't want Tua at all, like not even in the 3rd. A trade with additional value would fit our needs best. We could use another pick or 2.

[jfra78]

Just now, JARROD said:

My order Tua, Okudah, Simmons.

that order

Where would brown fit in that order?  To me Tua, Okudah, Brown, Simmons.  I'm not a big fan of picking Simmons for this team, he is really a weak side LB in the pros and we already have that in Shaq

[MHS831]

About Tua:  Yes, the injuries have to stay in the back of your mind.  If I drafted him, he would do nothing in 2020 except hold a very light clipboard with a relaxed spring in it so as not to aggravate an injury.  I would use the rest of this draft to build the defense, save a C--I would draft a C---to back up and work with Tua. 

In 2021, you will have enough feedback from 2020 to finish the offensive line.  Bridgewater is traded if necessary, and you have CMC and some impressive WRs.  Tua knows the system and would be ready to start.

The defense should be ready to go as well.

But if the choice is between Okudah (who by the way has high character) and SImmons (another high character guy)--you take the CB.

In fact, if Detroit passes on Okudah, I wonder if the Panthers might call Nippleshorts and try to work out a trade up.

 

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

Where would brown fit in that order?  To me Tua, Okudah, Brown, Simmons.  I'm not a big fan of picking Simmons for this team, he is really a weak side LB in the pros and we already have that in Shaq

I think Brown would be last---but it pains me to say it.  I just think Simmons' versatility (and I get it--Brown has it too) makes him the better choice for a defensive coordinator--but a guy that can play NT--5T is pretty dang versatile..  My only reason--Brown and DTs are rotational.  Simmons would never leave the field. 

[MHS831]

5 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I don't want Tua at all, like not even in the 3rd. A trade with additional value would fit our needs best. We could use another pick or 2.

If he is there, the trade offers would be substantial, I am assuming.

[jfra78]

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I think Brown would be last---but it pains me to say it.  I just think Simmons' versatility (and I get it--Brown has it too) makes him the better choice for a defensive coordinator--but a guy that can play NT--5T is pretty dang versatile..  My only reason--Brown and DTs are rotational.  Simmons would never leave the field. 

I wouldnt be real mad about Simmons, he just seems like a luxury pick when we have too many needs.  Brown is a real stud and is a 3 down DT, i dont think he leaves the field much.  

[Happy Panther]

We should pick Simmons or Brown. But I want Okudah.

[OneBadCat]

I think it's pretty tempting. I wouldn't put it past Tepper to want Tua. He might want to take a QB to energize the fan base and move on from Cam as fast as possible.