QB Wonderlic scores

[TheProcess]

11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Jordan Love just might be the steal of the draft if the right team gets him. He has probably the highest ceiling of all QBs in this draft.

Love and Jacob Eason both. These 2 guys could be special if the right team/coaches get ahold of them.

[MHS831]

11 hours ago, Call Me James said:

Wonderlic damn near meaningless 

So what you are saying is, they do it for no reason?  There is no correlation between learning ability and performance?  So when a player is confused or unsure of an assignment, they play with the same speed as one who is sure of his assignment?

Interesting theory--and the points you present are indisputable.

[MHS831]

Love may have helped his stock with this score.

[t96]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Jordan Love just might be the steal of the draft if the right team gets him. He has probably the highest ceiling of all QBs in this draft.

Yeah he’s growing on me I would love to trade back into the late 1st for him. 7 is too early. Hope the Pats don’t get him 

[jfra78]

10 minutes ago, t96 said:

Yeah he’s growing on me I would love to trade back into the late 1st for him. 7 is too early. Hope the Pats don’t get him 

When you watch film of him he looks very familiar.

[panthers55]

12 hours ago, Call Me James said:

Wonderlic damn near meaningless 

Actually it isn't meaningless. It measures processing speed and problem solving. Things that can make a difference at QB. But clearly it doesn't predict who is going to be a good or bad quarterback so it shouldn't be a deal breaker by any means. It's use in the combine is like many of the tests and driills. They are good information and useful more often when a person does very well versus being a huge factor if they underperform. And no other thing should trump the film and interviews in importance.

[ForJimmy]

40 minutes ago, t96 said:

Yeah he’s growing on me I would love to trade back into the late 1st for him. 7 is too early. Hope the Pats don’t get him 

I’m worried about the Pats or Saints. Give him a couple years behind Brees with Sean Peyton and we will be in trouble...

[rippadonn]

If anybody would use their #1 pick on a guy, you should consider doing so too. People had Jordan Love in the top ten for a reason.

Air Jordan Love

What an opportunity.

[Wes21]

13 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Ryan Fitzpatrick

 

Ryan Fitzpatrick, quarterback — 48/50

 

 

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A 48/50 tells me he missed a couple on purpose.  Agents tell their super smart clients to miss some on purpose, because too high of a score is associated with challenging authority and possibly retiring early.

[RASTAN66]

If find the  meaningless and no correlation theory as it goes to the Wonderlic test pretty interesting.

Does the same hold true for MCAT's, GMAT's, LSAT's, SAT's, etc...?

 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, RASTAN66 said:

If find the  meaningless and no correlation theory as it goes to the Wonderlic test pretty interesting.

Does the same hold true for MCAT's, GMAT's, LSAT's, SAT's, etc...?

 

I don't think it's meaningless, but I think that unless someone scores really low it's not that big of a deal. Those other tests test knowledge that directly relate to those fields and the subjects to be studied. The Wonderlic doesn't test knowledge that directly relates to football. I'm honestly surprised that the NFL hasn't developed their own general intelligence test that more is more directly relevant to football.

[kungfoodude]

16 minutes ago, RASTAN66 said:

If find the  meaningless and no correlation theory as it goes to the Wonderlic test pretty interesting.

Does the same hold true for MCAT's, GMAT's, LSAT's, SAT's, etc...?

 

Well higher SAT/ACT scores and greater "college success" do not seem to correlate particularly strongly. 

[MHS831]

38 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well higher SAT/ACT scores and greater "college success" do not seem to correlate particularly strongly. 

Nor does success in school correlate with success in the workplace.

However, the Wonderlic is not more than a piece of the puzzle. 

If pre-assessments could predict success, the NFL draft would have higher success rates.  However, there are certain cognitive skills that matter--it could measure the ability of the player to learn the system in the manner it is to be coached or taught--or indicate how the content should be taught/coached. 

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, t96 said:

Yeah he’s growing on me I would love to trade back into the late 1st for him. 7 is too early. Hope the Pats don’t get him 

I am seeing him mocked to LAC or Miami a lot more recently--this is that time of year--when the QBs rise (remember Gabbert, Ponder, etc--I was like, "WTF?) and the bad news about players (wonderlic, drug testing, etc) comes out just to keep us mockers off balance.