Verge's Mock Draft and Insight thread 2020

[Verge]

2 minutes ago, ncfan said:

From a panthers beat reporter as well now

 

 

I have heard and can definitely see Henderson, I'd be straight up blown away by Lamb. 

[ncfan]

1 minute ago, Verge said:

I have heard and can definitely see Henderson, I'd be straight up blown away by Lamb. 

Zack did mention on here people he's spoken to have Lamb then Henderson in that order.  And has made his official prediction Lamb.

 

This draft is going to get weird 

[Verge]

At the end of the day, I think staying put and taking Simmons/Brown still is the most likely scenario. Guess we will see.

[*FreeFua*]

24 minutes ago, ncfan said:

And Little and the picks last year.

And Moore

And CMC.

 

Id say he has a pretty good track record

I could add A LOT more things he has predicted correctly to that list as well. Things in free agency and other transactions loooooong before they happen. 
 

But sometimes it’s better to just keep quiet and watch some of the know it alls around here come to their own conclusions. 
 
(this wasn’t a shot at you Verge at all FYI)

 

[FuFuLamePoo]

We are building this team for 5 years from now. Not for next year. If Lamb can have a Julio Jones/DeAndre Hopkins effect here how is it not worth it?

[PantherMan89]

15 minutes ago, ncfan said:

From a panthers beat reporter as well now

 

 

Haven’t followed other teams behind us in draft order too close but thought I read NYJ loved Lamb. If so and we trade with them he may not make it to us. 

[*FreeFua*]

6 minutes ago, PantherMan89 said:

Haven’t followed other teams behind us in draft order too close but thought I read NYJ loved Lamb. If so and we trade with them he may not make it to us. 

If Brown is gone and we trade back for Lamb or CJ, I’m not even confident AZ passes over Lamb. 

And if Atlanta is serious about moving up for Henderson, Cleveland is the perfect spot for them. Cleveland is rumoured to like Ezra Cleveland who they probably believe they can get at 16. 

I don’t feel comfortable trading past 9. If we do I fully expect Kinlaw to be the pick due to everyone being gone

[Madwolf]

I don't fully understand trading back from 7, unless it's down a spot or two. 

[Verge]

8 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

If Brown is gone and we trade back for Lamb or CJ, I’m not even confident AZ passes over Lamb. 

And if Atlanta is serious about moving up for Henderson, Cleveland is the perfect spot for them. Cleveland is rumoured to like Ezra Cleveland who they probably believe they can get at 16. 

I don’t feel comfortable trading past 9. If we do I fully expect Kinlaw to be the pick due to everyone being gone

ATL might be moving up for a tackle 

[*FreeFua*]

6 minutes ago, Verge said:

ATL might be moving up for a tackle 

Interesting...

It very well could be JUST tackles and QB’s the first 6 picks 

[Growl]

32 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

We are building this team for 5 years from now. Not for next year. If Lamb can have a Julio Jones/DeAndre Hopkins effect here how is it not worth it?

These elite A1A wide receivers aren't how teams are built anymore. They simply don't elevate your team in any meaningful way. The modern NFL is about having three 'good' WRs instead of 1 great one and having a QB who ia talented enough to evenly distribute the football.

These "elite" guys sit around for a few seasons, catch more than their "fair share" undermining the offenses unpredictability and efficiency, then get paid $100 million contracts before the team realizes it just isnt worth it for the return.

 

[Madwolf]

8 minutes ago, Growl said:

These elite A1A wide receivers aren't how teams are built anymore. They simply don't elevate your team in any meaningful way. The modern NFL is about having three 'good' WRs instead of 1 great one and having a QB who ia talented enough to evenly distribute the football.

These "elite" guys sit around for a few seasons, catch more than their "fair share" undermining the offenses unpredictability and efficiency, then get paid $100 million contracts before the team realizes it just isnt worth it for the return.

 

Lets take a closer look at that, WRs from the last 10 Super Bowls for the winning team: (Too Long Didn't Read is at the bottom)

2019:

Hill

Watskins

Hardiman

2018:

Edleman

Gordon

Hogan

2017:

Jeffrey

Agholor

Torrey Smith

2016:

Edelman

Hogan

Mitchell

2015:

Thomas

Sanders

Norwood

2014:

Edelman

LaFell

Wright

2013:

Tate

Baldwin

Kearse

2012:

Boldin

Smith

Jones

2011:

Cruz

Nicks

Manningham

2010:

Jennings

Jones

Nelson

2009:

Colston

Henderson

Meachem

 

TLDR:

[ncfan]

Could easily see something like this shake up

[Growl]

1 minute ago, Madwolf said:

Lets take a closer look at that, WRs from the last 10 Super Bowls for the winning team: (Too Long Didn't Read is at the bottom)

2019:

Hill

Watskins

Hardiman

2018:

Edleman

Gordon

Hogan

2017:

Jeffrey

Agholor

Torrey Smith

2016:

Edelman

Hogan

Mitchell

2015:

Thomas

Sanders

Norwood

2014:

Edelman

LaFell

Wright

2013:

Tate

Baldwin

Kearse

2012:

Boldin

Smith

Jones

2011:

Cruz

Nicks

Manningham

2010:

Jennings

Jones

Nelson

2009:

Colston

Henderson

Meachem

 

TLDR:

I don't know what point you're even trying to make here, that somebody on the team led the team in catches?

 

This entire list is a whose who of just how right I am.  It's team after team of deep, solid receiving corps devoid of true stars.

 

Where is Odell Beckham? Where is Antonio brown? Where is AJ Green? Where is Deandre Hopkins? Where is Calvin Johnson?

The person who came the closest was Julio, and the falcons only elevated and made the Super bowl, again, as if to only reiterate the point further, when they added other solid players at WR, muddling his claim to being the exception here. You don't win super bowls with these triple teamed solo stars at the position anymore. 

Thanks for doing all the legwork so i didnt have to btw.