It’s looking more likely that NFL season will be cancelled.

[t96]

48 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

The NFL doesn't have more power than the world, which is currently short on testing. 

Will there still be a shortage nearly 6 months from now? (I don’t know)

 

And even if so, the rest of world is irrelevant (to this discussion, not my opinion) and the NFL is going to be high in the pecking order in the US.

[LegioX]

44 minutes ago, SwagAces9030 said:

2019 deaths by flu in United States = 61,000

flu death RATE = 0.1%

2020 deaths by covid in United States = 26,164

covid death RATE = 3.4%

 

3.4 / 0.1 = 34, covid is 34x more deadly than the flu. Without stay at home orders and the wonderful job our democratic governors have done around the US:

34 x 61,000 = 2,074,000 people dead in the United States.

That’s without taking into account rate of transmission.

 

Take a biostatistics course:

 “the dumb and silent may be led, like sheep to the slaughter”

~ George Washington

You honestly believe over 2 mil people would have died to COV-19 with a little over 80% of patients experience mild symptoms?

hell CDC reports almost 50% of people carrying COV-19 don’t even know they have it.

CDC also reports 8 out of 10 deaths from COV-19 have been from people 65+ in age. 
 

So just because a virus might be more contagious doesn’t mean it has a 100% mortality rate. Your numbers are bull crap. Just like how they said 240K will die, then they reduced it down to less than 100k in a week .

Oh. And instead of throwing your partisan BS into this conversation, how about you acknowledge the  fact that both political sides (president to governors To mayors) are putting their politics aside and are working together for the common good. You know, the N.Y. mayor and CA governor who have both publicly pointed out that the president has basically given them all they needed and they are working together? 
 

[Chief Keek]

1 hour ago, SwagAces9030 said:

2019 deaths by flu in United States = 61,000

flu death RATE = 0.1%

2020 deaths by covid in United States = 26,164

covid death RATE = 3.4%

 

3.4 / 0.1 = 34, covid is 34x more deadly than the flu. Without stay at home orders and the wonderful job our democratic governors have done around the US:

34 x 61,000 = 2,074,000 people dead in the United States.

That’s without taking into account rate of transmission.

 

Take a biostatistics course:

 “the dumb and silent may be led, like sheep to the slaughter”

~ George Washington

Yea those death rates from the coronavirus are not quite legitimate, they're almost literally reporting any death as coronavirus related right now.

This death was reported as related to the coronavirus but after the baby tests negative they tell the truth, the baby died from premature birth.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491339-coroner-1-day-old-infant-dead-from-coronavirus-in-east-baton-rouge

https://www.wafb.com/2020/04/06/one-day-old-girl-dies-covid-la/

The CDC even release guidelines stating "Ideally, testing for COVID–19 should be conducted, but it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate without this confirmation if the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty."

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf

Are people dying of the virus? Yes, but to blindly state that is the cause without testing and autopsy results means those numbers aren't authentic.

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, RoaringRiot said:

The NFL doesn't have more power than the world, which is currently short on testing. 

I don't think people comprehend just how many tests we're talking about. Let's say there's 200 people involved in conducing an NFL football game. At 15 games per week aver the course of a 17 week season that's 51,000 tests and that's just to conduct regular season games. That's not talking about training camp, preseason, playoffs, etc. There are only 12 states in the country that have currently conducted that many tests. The NFL by itself would be consuming more tests than the vast majority of states. 

[Snake]

Just play 6 games or so and get the league year over with. That way we can clear all that dead cap off the books. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, RASTAN66 said:

I'm not surprised. Maintaining social distancing protocols on a golf course without fans present isn't that difficult.

The Panthers' defense also didn't have much issue maintaining social distancing protocols on a football field last season either, for what that's worth.

[Camp Fodder]

10 hours ago, SwagAces9030 said:

You are correct, there were zero stay at home orders for anything on that list outside of covid. Which, was the entire point, to reduce the death toll. Without the stay at home orders and country shutdowns elsewhere that covid death total would make your list look like a joke. Asymptomatic carriers, up to 14 day latency period with no symptoms, and 30x more lethal when compared to the flu (mortality rate 3.4% vs flu mortality rate 0.1%) You can’t take death totals that are lower than statistical model projections due to the correct preventative measures being taken finally and call it overblown.
 

The whole point of these measures is to reduce deaths that is why the totals aren’t comparable to the flu. Your post is ignorance at its finest.

The mortality rate for covid right now is 3.4%... The flu is 0.1%. If these measures aren’t taken multiply your flu death total by 30. That’s 3,600,000 deaths at the rate it’s going.

 

But isn’t the 3.4 percent only based off of confirmed cases. What about the people who are denied testing or have  no symptoms 

[45catfan]

24 minutes ago, Camp Fodder said:

But isn’t the 3.4 percent only based off of confirmed cases. What about the people who are denied testing or have  no symptoms 

And now anyone dying, but not confirmed to have the virus is lumped into COVID-19 deaths as long as it is suspected.  That's the reason New York death numbers jumped.  It's confirmed COVID-19 deaths and now likely COVID-19 deaths.  

[Gladniator1]

Good to see the Tinderbox made it over the main page.  Great job admins!  I'll be back after the draft when hopefully we don't have full-blown partisan hatred directed at fellow Panther fans and instead can get back to talking about football.

Signed,
A Lurker

[Camp Fodder]

51 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

And now anyone dying, but not confirmed to have the virus is lumped into COVID-19 deaths as long as it is suspected.  That's the reason New York death numbers jumped.  It's confirmed COVID-19 deaths and now likely COVID-19 deaths.  

Bingo. It’s like no one dies if anything else anymore

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

And now anyone dying, but not confirmed to have the virus is lumped into COVID-19 deaths as long as it is suspected.  That's the reason New York death numbers jumped.  It's confirmed COVID-19 deaths and now likely COVID-19 deaths.  

suspected numbers are deaths on top of historical data

so if a person dies in their apartment and has a history of pulm problems and decomp'd out of fuging nowhere, and seven other people in their complex have tested positive, there's not a reason to waste a test in very high demand to get a definitive confirmation. especially when that test isn't very accurate to begin with. 

i know you think you're being smarter than most or edgy or whatever but you're really just showing off how little you fuging know

[45catfan]

15 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

suspected numbers are deaths on top of historical data

so if a person dies in their apartment and has a history of pulm problems and decomp'd out of fuging nowhere, and seven other people in their complex have tested positive, there's not a reason to waste a test in very high demand to get a definitive confirmation. especially when that test isn't very accurate to begin with. 

i know you think you're being smarter than most or edgy or whatever but you're really just showing off how little you fuging know

Another one fine with inflated death rates.  Not shocking, all things considered.

[electro's horse]

Just now, 45catfan said:

Another one fine with inflated death rates.  Not shocking, all things considered.

death rates aren't inflated at all. if anything they're massively underreported. we're not even allowed to test people that die before they get to the hospital, or die before they're tested!

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

death rates aren't inflated at all. if anything they're massively underreported. we're not even allowed to test people that die before they get to the hospital, or die before they're tested!

So of all the ailments a human being can die from, especially the elderly, it's categorized as a Corona virus related deaths as long as they had a symptom or was in contact with/near someone that was confirmed?  That's an assumption.  Heck, a lot of elderly people have COPD or emphysema which are breathing ailments.

You believe what you want, I will too.  There's a reason I don't go to the TB because of the repeated, unending back and forth.  I'm moving on....