It’s looking more likely that NFL season will be cancelled.

[RoaringRiot]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, this is the problem. What's the minimum people it would require to conduct a football game between the players, coaches, trainers, medical staff, chain crews, TV crews, refs, etc., etc.? I'm thinking probably 200 bare minimum and that might be way short of the actual number. The chances of keeping all those people COVID free for 15 games per week is probably worse than getting struck by lightning while holding a winning jackpot lottery ticket.

I would guess more. Because you would have to, somehow, keep everyone completely quarantined. This includes the cooks, the security, the bus drivers, the camera people, etc....all of their families. And the second that one of them gets it....boom....the whole thing is shut down for two weeks. If we get to week three and a player gets it and they have to shut it all down for two weeks that’s a disaster.
 

Also...how can you force a player to play? What about players who live with family members who may be high risk? 
 

And even if you assume they can somehow just remove a player, what if Pat Mahomes or Lamar Jackson get it? Is the league really willing to shut down its star for weeks because they played the games?

[4Corners]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, this is the problem. What's the minimum people it would require to conduct a football game between the players, coaches, trainers, medical staff, chain crews, TV crews, refs, etc., etc.? I'm thinking probably 200 bare minimum and that might be way short of the actual number. The chances of keeping all those people COVID free for 15 games per week is probably worse than getting struck by lightning while holding a winning jackpot lottery ticket.

People are not thinking clearly. Stir crazy has set in. I get it, I love sports too and love watching my teams, but this is unprecedented and realistically, you can not do things like have a season while a world wide pandemic is going on. People arguing that you can keep moving the goal posts. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Trump has added UFC President Dana White and WWE CEO Vince McMahon to his economic task force.

No, really. This is true.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, 4Corners said:

People are not thinking clearly. Stir crazy has set in. I get it, I love sports too and love watching my teams, but this is unprecedented and realistically, you can not do things like have a season while a world wide pandemic is going on. People arguing that you can keep moving the goal posts. 

Especially with football just due to the very large number of people involved and the number of events. I could see golf being a potential. You can socially distance fairly effectively on a golf course. I could see combat sports being a potential. Tennis if anyone cares. Beyond that... eh, I'm just not seeing much. Team sports are just out.

[4Corners]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Trump has added UFC President Dana White and WWE CEO Vince McMahon to his economic task force.

No, really. This is true.

Both are huge republicans - and the McMahon family is very close with Trump. Linda McMahon’s superpac just donated a large sum of money to the Florida Governor who, surprisingly, named fake ass wrestling an essential business so that they can broadcast their live events. Donald Trump is a despicable human being. 

[t96]

1 hour ago, RoaringRiot said:

What do you do when you get to week two or three and a player has it?

By the time the season comes around and with the amount of money the league has I think they’ll have pretty solid access to consistent testing for players.

[RoaringRiot]

18 minutes ago, t96 said:

By the time the season comes around and with the amount of money the league has I think they’ll have pretty solid access to consistent testing for players.

Maybe your assumption is true, but the second one player tests positive then the entire quarantined space you’ve created is now compromised and everyone who’s come in contact with that person has to self quarantine for two weeks. If there is consistent testing there is no reason to assume there will be real time, Immediate results. 
 

And again, even “if” the testing exists you’re still requiring an incredible number of people to live in isolation for 5-6 months. And that’s just to play without fans. Good luck! 
(spoiler: it ain’t happening) 

[RASTAN66]

26 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Maybe your assumption is true, but the second one player tests positive then the entire quarantined space you’ve created is now compromised and everyone who’s come in contact with that person has to self quarantine for two weeks. If there is consistent testing there is no reason to assume there will be real time, Immediate results. 
 

And again, even “if” the testing exists you’re still requiring an incredible number of people to live in isolation for 5-6 months. And that’s just to play without fans. Good luck! 
(spoiler: it ain’t happening) 

You should recuse yourself.

Despite the modest pulpit you occupy you are in no way qualified to make such far reaching prognostications.

Oddly, you remind me of a guy named Parcell on the radio who seems to think he's the be-all, end-all in the world of virus adjudication...

...are you him?

[CarolinaNCSU]

With colleges supposedly considering a spring season, might be on the NFL radar soon. 

[SwagAces9030]

6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Yes I know.  But I question the people whose focus is on the economy right now, and feel the need to promote a return to normalcy when they do not know if it is safe to do so or not.  The economy is not the big issue here---but there is a narrative being presented that makes people fear it is.  I am tired of all the fear mongering and misinformation when lives are at risk.  People need to stop forcing unhealthy agendas without knowing what they are encouraging people to do.  My family has 3 in hospitals right now.  Why? their preacher (my wife's cousin) told them to come to church--that the Virus is politicized by the left, and God will help them through it.  One will not make it.  So false narratives by blowhards who are using political fear tactics to influence social behaviors to jumpstart the economy have no idea what they are doing.  The only way this thing lasts 18 months is if morons don't stop forcing their misinformed ideologies on others.  Fear mongering, fake information flowing from our president--and carried to the four corners of the nation by mindless pigeons is how this thing relapses and lasts that long. 

I come here to talk football.  Not promote some distorted propaganda designed to re-elect an idiot. 
How bout that CMC contract, huh?

Best post I’ve ever read on here, the uneducated have and will continue to spread this and prolong the very thing they fear. Listen to science and public health officials, that’s it.

[SwagAces9030]

4 hours ago, Chief Keek said:

What authority does the Mayor have over decisions other than his own city? Nothing. The country will open back up because there isn't another choice, people are barely hanging on now mentally and some have already lost their financial stability. All of these kooks and wackjobs that keep saying shutdown until November don't have a clue, we would be lucky to have a stable country in November if that's the case.  Mitigation is working and the "experts" overestimated the numbers with those models, the media isn't helping either with their sensationalizing. The only issue this pandemic exposed was the lack of hygiene by average people, wash your hands and stay the hell home if you're sick.

The numbers were over estimated because stay at home orders had a positive effect. If stay at home orders were not put in place, the numbers would not have been over estimated. Mind you we’ve still only tested minimally compared to what should be doing, another reason the numbers were ‘over estimated’.

[MrBubba]

8 hours ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Mayor of NYC just said that September would be the earliest he sees big public gatherings again. I just can’t foresee a scenario in which the NFL season goes on at this point. No OTAs, no training camp, no mini camp and NY not even thinking about large gatherings until September. Yes, this is looking bad. 

Mayor of NYC is a dumbass.  

[RASTAN66]

12 minutes ago, MrBubba said:

8 hours ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Mayor of NYC just said that September would be the earliest he sees big public gatherings again. I just can’t foresee a scenario in which the NFL season goes on at this point. No OTAs, no training camp, no mini camp and NY not even thinking about large gatherings until September. Yes, this is looking bad. 

Mayor of NYC is a dumbass.  

There are no NFL teams playing football in NYC.

Bloomy tried to get a stadium built in the rail yards on UWS but that effort failed.

Bloomy was a kick-ass Mayor...

...in short order DiDummy has lost almost all of 2-decades worth of on-field gains made by Giuliani and Bloomberg.

[SwagAces9030]

3 hours ago, bigdavis said:

Sorry my copy and paste didn't transfer here correctly.  In essence, this tabulation showed that, in comparison to many other causes of death, COVID-19 is overblown -- and indeed, as President Trump surmised, the cure might be worse than the disease.

Some comparable stats from the list: Worldwide deaths from 1/1 - 4/1/20, from...

COVID-19:  46,438

Seasonal Flu:  121,993

Malaria:  246,121

Suicide:  269,076

Traffic Fatalities:  338,715

HIV/AIDS:  421,808

Alcohol:  627,571

Cancer:  2,060,730

Hunger:  2,806,314

Abortion:  10,665,130

 

Was the country shut down (are you saying it should have been?) for any of these other reasons?   No.  With not even 26,000 deaths (to date, not 4/1) attributed to COVID-19 in the U.S., is there not a good argument to make that the lifeblood of our economy -- the jobs of its citizens -- might not be more important than the isolation measures now in place to fight a disease that has been way over-estimated in its dangers?

I am not likening any disease to a previous irrational fear that was non-medical, yet swept the country, but fears of Y2K proved to be similarly over-hyped.

While the poster to whom I respond has my sincere sympathy for his association with several people who've been directly effected by this pandemic, I doubt few or many of us have such associations.

Put this into some perspective -- this 'pandemic' won't kill a fraction of the people who die of the flu.

 

You are correct, there were zero stay at home orders for anything on that list outside of covid. Which, was the entire point, to reduce the death toll. Without the stay at home orders and country shutdowns elsewhere that covid death total would make your list look like a joke. Asymptomatic carriers, up to 14 day latency period with no symptoms, and 30x more lethal when compared to the flu (mortality rate 3.4% vs flu mortality rate 0.1%) You can’t take death totals that are lower than statistical model projections due to the correct preventative measures being taken finally and call it overblown.
 

The whole point of these measures is to reduce deaths that is why the totals aren’t comparable to the flu. Your post is ignorance at its finest.

The mortality rate for covid right now is 3.4%... The flu is 0.1%. If these measures aren’t taken multiply your flu death total by 30. That’s 3,600,000 deaths at the rate it’s going.