It’s looking more likely that NFL season will be cancelled.

[Devil Doc]

Why are people saying you are dumb or stupid, and that you are not listening to science and the professionals, if you want the economy back and want the NFL to play? I've been watching this poo unfold since March 14th, and have fairly good knowledge from a medical aspect. We will be normal by July. Those saying, but people will die! People die everyday, you still have the risk of diseases and conditions that kill people. Deaths are going to happen, it is the circle of life. Even if a 'Vaccine' is created, it still wont be perfect, just like the flu vaccine. Alot of people with baseless ideas on this thread. Is people's hatred for Trump that bad, that they will deny the country getting better? It is ok, you agreeing with Trump, does not make you  Trumpster, your safe. Also, there is significant evidence of the Mental Health aspect making the Virus worse, you know how many forms of coping skills involve sports, outdoors, events, live music, etc? More than you realize. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

7 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Vaccines help  4/10 times. Meaning you will be wasting 1 1/2 years of your life for a 40% reduction.

Covid is now apart of our lives, we need treatment, NOT vaccines. 

Sorry to burst that bubble you are in but vaccines are a treatment. Try and get a correct assessment of this before posting something with no evidence or link.

[RoaringRiot]

Buckle up

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2886884-rams-brian-allen-becomes-1st-nfl-player-to-test-positive-for-the-coronavirus

 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

4 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Buckle up

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2886884-rams-brian-allen-becomes-1st-nfl-player-to-test-positive-for-the-coronavirus

 

This will make it a lot harder to even play any games the NFL has planned for. There will be no games at all played if this gets to other players on the many teams the NFL has and no season will even take place even in a fan less stadium.

[FeelTheBurns53]

8 minutes ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

Sorry to burst that bubble you are in but vaccines are a treatment. Try and get a correct assessment of this before posting something with no evidence or link.

Vaccines are a treatment?? Lolll. 

A vaccine is a preventive measure, not a cure. 

[SwagAces9030]

16 minutes ago, FeelTheBurns53 said:

And how are you reaching this conclusion? 

flu death total for 2019 in US = 61,000

flu death RATE (Deaths/cases) = 0.1%

Covid death total in US = 28,529

coivd death RATE (Deaths/cases) = 4.4%

4.4 / 0.1 = 44

covid is right now 44x more deadlier than the flu...

Remove shelter in place and open up the economy...

44 x 61,000 flu deaths = 2,684,000 deaths...

 

don’t beat around those numbers and make justifications that aren’t true. It’s either millions die or the economy collapses. Mind you with those death totals the economy will collapse regardless.

[Tbe]

9 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

Buckle up

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2886884-rams-brian-allen-becomes-1st-nfl-player-to-test-positive-for-the-coronavirus

 

It’s going to be interesting. If they end up playing somehow, we might see a lot of big names out on quarantine at some point in the season.

[SwagAces9030]

15 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

Why are people saying you are dumb or stupid, and that you are not listening to science and the professionals, if you want the economy back and want the NFL to play? I've been watching this poo unfold since March 14th, and have fairly good knowledge from a medical aspect. We will be normal by July. Those saying, but people will die! People die everyday, you still have the risk of diseases and conditions that kill people. Deaths are going to happen, it is the circle of life. Even if a 'Vaccine' is created, it still wont be perfect, just like the flu vaccine. Alot of people with baseless ideas on this thread. Is people's hatred for Trump that bad, that they will deny the country getting better? It is ok, you agreeing with Trump, does not make you  Trumpster, your safe. Also, there is significant evidence of the Mental Health aspect making the Virus worse, you know how many forms of coping skills involve sports, outdoors, events, live music, etc? More than you realize. 

As of now both republicans and democrats have installed shelter in place... So maybe king Trump should just open up the economy again like he claims he can do instead of blaming democrats for it being closed.

[FeelTheBurns53]

8 minutes ago, SwagAces9030 said:

flu death total for 2019 in US = 61,000

flu death RATE (Deaths/cases) = 0.1%

Covid death total in US = 28,529

coivd death RATE (Deaths/cases) = 4.4%

4.4 / 0.1 = 44

covid is right now 44x more deadlier than the flu...

Remove shelter in place and open up the economy...

44 x 61,000 flu deaths = 2,684,000 deaths...

 

don’t beat around those numbers and make justifications that aren’t true. It’s either millions die or the economy collapses.

Loll if you think the death rate from covid is greater than 4% you're either seriously naive or completely misinformed. 

Just for some perspective, 60 million, or 1/5th of the entire population of the US contacted the swine flu in 2009-2010. 

The infected rate is exponentially higher than what's being reported (that's why they're saying you could have it but show no symptoms). The real death rate will be far below 1% once all the data and models are released.

The coronavirus is just a more severe form of the common cold. How many people contact the cold every year? Oh, and also, it's 2020 and there is no cure for the common cold, bc there's literally thousands of different variations, it's almost impossible to find a cure, as will be the case with coronavirus

[SwagAces9030]

10 minutes ago, FeelTheBurns53 said:

Loll if you think the the death rate from covid is grater than 4% you're either seriously naive or completely misinformed. 

Just for some perspective, 60 million, or 1/5th of the entire population of the US contacted the swine flu in 2009-2010. 

The infected rate is exponentially higher than what's being reported (that's why they're saying you could have it but show no symptoms). The real death rate will be far below 1% once all the data and models are released when it's all said and done.

The coronavirus is just a more severe form of the common cold. How many people contact the cold every year? Oh, and also, it's 2020 and there is no cure for the common cold. 

I go with the sample size that we have.... You have no idea how many people have it that haven’t been tested. 60 million contracted swine flu because there was no shelter in place. So to use that to water down the death rate and act like the numbers are similar for a virus where everyone is sheltered in place makes no sense. New cases are going down country wide because of shelter in place, yet the death rate keeps going up.

[FeelTheBurns53]

18 minutes ago, SwagAces9030 said:

I go with the sample size that we have.... You have no idea how many people have it that haven’t been tested. 60 million contracted swine flu because there was no shelter in place. So to use that to water down the death rate and act like the numbers are similar for a virus where everyone is sheltered in place makes no sense. New cases are going down country wide because of shelter in place, yet the death rate keeps going up.

And if you slowly reopen society and even 1 person still has the Coronavirus, then what do you do? Another shutdown? More quarantines? More restrictive measures? Where do you draw the line? When will this stop? 

And no, reported coronavirus cases are going down but deaths keep increasing bc anyone with severe symptoms will go to a hospital and die in a hospital, so those numbers will always be well known. 

If you show flu like symptoms and recover in your home, those cases aren't being reported. That's why projections from models and extrapolations are used every year to estimate the amount of flu cases, which they haven't done yet with the coronavirus. 

[SwagAces9030]

12 minutes ago, FeelTheBurns53 said:

And if you slowly reopen society and even 1 person still has the Coronavirus, then what do you do? Another shutdown? More quarantines? More restrictive measures? Where do you draw the line? When will this stop? 

And no, reported coronavirus cases are going down but deaths keep increasing bc anyone with severe symptoms will go to a hospital and die in a hospital, so those numbers will always be well known. 

If you show flu like symptoms and recover in your home, those cases aren't being reported. That's why projections from models and extrapolations are used every year to estimate the amount of flu cases, which they haven't done yet with the coronavirus. 

So you don’t think shelter in place has prevented cases? You think there are enough unreported cases to drive the death rate “well below 1%”? To reach a 0.3% death rate based on the total deaths in the US there would have to be 9,358,081 cases not reported... With shelter in place I find it very hard to believe that there are 9,358,081 cases not reported. If that is the case (which it’s not) then shame on our federal government for deferring to the governors and not ramping up testing to include flu like symptoms so that we actually knew where we stand.

[FeelTheBurns53]

6 minutes ago, SwagAces9030 said:

So you don’t think shelter in place has prevented cases? You think there are enough unreported cases to drive the death rate “well below 1%”? To reach a 0.3% death rate based on the total deaths in the US there would have to be 9,358,081 cases not reported... With shelter in place I find it very hard to believe that there are 9,358,081 cases not reported. If that is the case (which it’s not) then shame on our federal government for deferring to the governors and not ramping up testing to include flu like symptoms so that we actually knew where we stand.

Again, 60 million contacted h1n1 in the US alone, so for you not to believe there could be 10 million coronavirus cases thus far has me scratching my head

Again, we'll get a much more accurate estimate in 2021, but right now, all deaths are being reported and only a fraction of cases are being reported, which is why the death rate is so high, just using a little common sense and looking at past pandemics. 

[LinvilleGorge]

I think the total number of cases are highly likely to be several magnitudes greater than the number of confirmed cases considering that 1) testing has been very limited 2) qualifying for a test requires meeting very specific criteria 3) 80% of symptomatic cases are relatively mild 4) up to 50% of carriers are asymptomatic. Put all of that together and there are going to be a LOT of undiagnosed cases out there.