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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Tepper made it clear with before the last 3 games that we were going to do whatever it took to get CMC to 1k/1k.  Our red zone offense droped from 58% to 44% to 33% and we went from scoring 21.5 points per game to 24 then 3 then 10.  Cant win scoring 10 and 3 points.

He averaged 23.6 touches over the last three games. Over our five wins he averaged 30.2. The highest number of touches he had last season was 37. We beat the Texans 16-10 that day.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Well, if we're talking about coaching, it's probably worth considering that Christian McCaffrey running plays designed by Joe Brady is probably a different player than Christian McCaffrey running plays designed by Norv / Scott Turner.

True, it will be interesting to see. I expect a lot less rushing and similar passes to the RB if you look at 2018 and 2019 LSU.

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42 minutes ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

Pretty much never.  But, when has he had talent around him?  He's amazing, but a lot of his stats have come on bad teams when frankly he was ALL we had.

Not totally against the deal and IMO it HAD to be done, but once you factor in the rise of DJ, if Samuel can live up to the hype, add in Robby, another TE/WR in the draft, and flat out just regression to the mean...he's not going to be the 1,000/1,000 guy anymore.  Unless, like last year, he's racking up a lot of empty stats as one of 2 options as we get our ass beat and don't have a QB who could do anything.  If he is capable of keeping up the 1,000/1,000 type stuff, we just locked up the greatest player in league history so who cares.  Imagining him to continue being the CMC we've seen is a little crazy to me and all I meant by the post.  Does he have another MVP caliber year in him in the next two years?  Sure.  Can he withstand that for the next 5?  History says hell no. Again, he's a Top 3 RB in the league and we had to pay him, but people justifying the contract solely based on his production are playing fantasy football and not thinking about building a team. I love CMC, I'm fine with the contract for now..but "just a RB?" - - if this team is going to actually win games, CMC's role is going to reduce greatly because it means we've actually got legit WRs (plural), a TE again, and a QB we actually trust to throw the ball instead of check down to CMC and let him work.  

It’s reasonable to assume that winning would require production from several offensive (and defensive) components. It’s also reasonable to assume that if they can find production elsewhere it won’t eradicate the notion that defenses will consider CMC a primary responsibility while simultaneously increasing his longevity if in fact he’s not being asked to carry the entire offense on his shoulders. 
 

The contract wouldn’t make sense for a guy like J Stew who is injury plagued and a fairly one dimensional RB. CMC is a generational talent and he deserves that green. Glad we don’t have to watch him suit up elsewhere for quite some time.

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Here's the thing-- this kicks in after rookie deal. Which means we got him at top money a year early. Which means next big time RB will get paid a post-CMC number, but we'll already have CMC in the bag through 2025. It won't be so bad when we're looking at FA in two years when it kicks in.

That and he is our legacy player now for Cam, Luke, and Greg. And he might turn out to be the greatest dual threat player of all time. So....

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He averaged 23.6 touches over the last three games. Over our five wins he averaged 30.2. The highest number of touches he had last season was 37. We beat the Texans 16-10 that day.

He was also targeted more in those last 3 games

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I could make a GREAT case both ways about this. Personally Id rather put cap space in other areas.

Can we please all agree this past 1k/1k season was forced? Once it was over, fired Ron and NO playoffs. The entire focus of the offenses was getting CMC that 1k/1k season for whatever reasons. A 16 million player better get those 1 yard game-winners too, unlike this past season. 

I understand, just dont agree. Im a DL whore and would sign Freeman or Miller to a 3million deal. Use that 13 million on a stud lineman. 

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2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I could make a GREAT case both ways about this. Personally Id rather put cap space in other areas.

Can we please all agree this past 1k/1k season was forced? Once it was over, fired Ron and NO playoffs. The entire focus of the offenses was getting CMC that 1k/1k season for whatever reasons. A 16 million player better get those 1 yard game-winners too, unlike this past season. 

I understand, just dont agree. Im a DL whore and would sign Freeman or Miller to a 3million deal. Use that 13 million on a stud lineman. 

Yea those 3rd and 1 plays are hard to watch

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4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

He was also targeted more in those last 3 games

Well, I mean he was catching 86% of his targets over those games vs. 81% over the course of the season. 

But, if you're asking me if I think we were trying to win those games? Honestly I would hope not. It would've been dumb to try to win those games.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Well, I mean he was catching 86% of his targets over those games vs. 81% over the course of the season. 

But, if you're asking me if I think we were trying to win those games? Honestly I would hope not. It would've been dumb to try to win those games.

Gotta believe Fewell wanted to win.

Would certainly have been in Scott Turner's best interests as well.

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